2014/05/19 11:39:45
DeeringAmps
Last time I saw BB live, sitting RIGHT in front of the PA, I had to "borrow" two cigarettes
from a friend to make a set of ear plugs.
see this post here
T
 
2014/05/19 12:05:36
dcumpian
mike_mccue
You can use Channel tools to do something like this:
 

hint: Right click view image in new tab to see the image at full size.
 
You can put effects in the bins of the mid or side bus.
 
There are other free Mid Side decoders. Voxengo has a good one called MSED.
 
Although this routing is easy to do, you may find that any FX with built in mid side processing saves a lot of time and routing and so they may be preferable.
 
best regards,
mike




I get it now. Thanks for this. I think I dimly remember seeing this a long time ago, but I've only recently gotten comfortable enough mixing to add another tool to the arsenal.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2014/05/19 12:11:44
quantumeffect
DeeringAmps
Last time I saw BB live, sitting RIGHT in front of the PA, I had to "borrow" two cigarettes
from a friend to make a set of ear plugs.
see this post here
T
 


“Borrowed” implies that you returned them to their rightful owner for a future smoke so I will assume that you did not light them after you put them in your ear canals … but I would be all impressed if you did actually light them.
2014/05/19 12:40:41
The Maillard Reaction
The King or the Holding Company*?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
*Geezer humour
 
 
2014/05/19 14:27:58
Elffin
Many thanks guys ... really helpful thread...

So what does the correlation meter in Voxengo span measure?

Also found a plugin for free - panulator for checking stereo recordings on mono recordings which some people find useful.
2014/05/19 14:39:31
DeeringAmps
King!
Big Brother is one of the 60's acts I never saw live.
I WAS mere inches from Janis once, she was driving that cool Porsche the Fool had painted for her.
But that is another story...
T
2014/05/19 14:43:05
The Maillard Reaction
:-)
2014/05/19 15:09:02
bitflipper
A correlation meter (also called a phase meter) shows how different the left and right channels are from one another.
 
If both sides are exactly the same (mono), you can say that they are fully correlated, having a correlation ratio of 1:1, or a correlation factor of 1. If both sides are completely different, they are said to have a correlation of -1. A correlation meter reads from -1 to 1, from fully uncorrelated to fully correlated.
 
Real mixes bounce around between 0 and 1, showing that the L-R differences are varying, as you'd expect them to be. Correlation meters have persistence, meaning instantaneous values stay onscreen awhile so you can see the accumulated range of values over the past N milliseconds. The wider the range of values, the wider your mix is going to sound. A mix that sticks over to the -1 side has polarity problems and is not mono-compatible.
 
A goniometer (sometimes called a vectorscope) is a variation on the same idea, except that it displays a Y axis in addition to the X axis of a correlation meter in order to add amplitude into the information. You use it the same way, except that a nice wide mix will have an oval shape, and a mono mix will show as a vertical line. It also has the advantage of showing L-R balance, although if you have two ears and two speakers you've probably already got that covered.
 
 
2014/05/19 16:05:43
dcumpian
bitflipper
A correlation meter (also called a phase meter) shows how different the left and right channels are from one another.
 
If both sides are exactly the same (mono), you can say that they are fully correlated, having a correlation ratio of 1:1, or a correlation factor of 1. If both sides are completely different, they are said to have a correlation of -1. A correlation meter reads from -1 to 1, from fully uncorrelated to fully correlated.
 
Real mixes bounce around between 0 and 1, showing that the L-R differences are varying, as you'd expect them to be. Correlation meters have persistence, meaning instantaneous values stay onscreen awhile so you can see the accumulated range of values over the past N milliseconds. The wider the range of values, the wider your mix is going to sound. A mix that sticks over to the -1 side has polarity problems and is not mono-compatible.
 
A goniometer (sometimes called a vectorscope) is a variation on the same idea, except that it displays a Y axis in addition to the X axis of a correlation meter in order to add amplitude into the information. You use it the same way, except that a nice wide mix will have an oval shape, and a mono mix will show as a vertical line. It also has the advantage of showing L-R balance, although if you have two ears and two speakers you've probably already got that covered.
 
 




Ummm...so Bit, what do you do for fun?
 
Regards,
Dan
2014/05/19 16:12:14
DeeringAmps
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