2012/11/07 11:30:00
batsbrew
well, i would, but they'll just say 'hire a contractor'

heheh
2012/11/07 11:33:29
Karyn
High voltage? I thought you guys were limited to 110v...
2012/11/07 11:45:34
Bub
Karyn

High voltage? I thought you guys were limited to 110v...
Nope. Every house here in the U.S. has 220v coming in to it. It's split at the fuse box in to two 110v lugs.

Well, let me correct myself before someone else tries to set their imaginary record straight ...

Every home I've ever been to or seen has two 110v and 1 return lines. My oven is 220, stove is 220, dryer is 220.

I'm sure, somewhere in the U.S., there is someone running their entire home off a single 110v lug.

My apologies in advance.

Please forgive me.

:-)

2012/11/07 12:07:24
digi2ns
Your correct for the most part Bub

Most do have 220vac coming into the main box

2 legs of 110 and a Neutral with the main box having a ground installed.

Ive worked on some larger homes that had 3 Phase coming in but they were also powering shops on the same property as well.

Someone correct if Im off but the purpose of the 208/220 is to balance the load across the circuits when powering larger appliances such as A/C, elect stove, water heaters, Air Handlers w/ heat strips, etc...  

I believe outside of that the only difference between us and Europe is the Cycles, 60 v 50 overseas OHHH  and the oulets are different   


2012/11/07 12:53:44
Starise
 Yeah you are better off Bub going with the larger wire direct from the breaker like digi2ins said. If you are concerned about heat coming from the oven I wouldn't worry if you ran the wire in a conduit. Those ovens don't get that hot on the sides and back. They are designed to be put in places that are close proximity to wood.

 I am the HVAC guy but I regularly work with electricity. :) I wired my house and panels.
2012/11/07 13:20:46
Bub
Starise

  Yeah you are better off Bub going with the larger wire direct from the breaker like digi2ins said. If you are concerned about heat coming from the oven I wouldn't worry if you ran the wire in a conduit. Those ovens don't get that hot on the sides and back. They are designed to be put in places that are close proximity to wood.

 I am the HVAC guy but I regularly work with electricity. :) I wired my house and panels.
That HVAC thing is funny! I had it all spelled out but it was too long for the thread title so I went back and abbreviated never even thinking that it actually meant something else! :)

I wired two houses in my time, one directly from transformer in the front yard before it was connected to the pole.

I need to get up in the attic here at the new/old house and change some things. It's like someone wired this place to mess with you. For example, there's only one switch to turn the lights on in the living room and it's at the other end opposite the kitchen and dining room, so you have to go roaming around in the dark to turn the lights on. Some switches don't do anything, there's no vent in the main bathroom ... I got lots of electrical to do here, not to mention wire the basement before the holidays when company comes to stay, I'm setting up a room and some of them will be sleeping down there. Luckily there's no insulation in the attic to speak of so changing some electrical from above should be easy-ish! DOH! :-)

Gotta go. :)

2012/11/07 13:34:16
Starise
 Good luck getting it all straightened out. I have a couple of three way switch circuits in my house I'm procrastinating on fixing, so we guess which switch turns the light on and off drives my wife crazy. 

 No vent in the bathroom? Sheesh man that could be a bad situation, I think someone is definitly messing with you lol.
 
 Bub I know you know what you are doing but I would be really careful with that stuff we want to keep hearing from you in the future. I hope you aren't trying all of this with noone else there.

  
2012/11/07 13:38:27
Crg
Do you think I'll be ok with the #8 I ran inside the conduit going up alongside the oven, or should I take it back out and use the original wire and put it underneath? Anyone know how hot it actually gets back there? There's not enough room for me to get my hands in below it, so I'm going to have to take a long drill bit and hook it up in the joists below. I can access that from the basement.

 
Yes, you should be fine. The #10 that came with the oven is probably machine wire which handles larger currents. As long as you have a proper ground in the conduit, the #8 will do fine. Your only concern should be adequate space behind the oven for the conduit and connection box.
2012/11/07 16:49:19
Psalmist35
Bub,
One thing that I noticed in the wiring diagram that no one has addressed is the requirement for a Nuetral (White) wire.  This is different and seperate from the ground wire.  I mention this because your comments indicatre that maybe some of the wiring methods in your home may be questionable.  The ground wire will obviously protect the user from getting shocked.  The netural is necessary to facilitate the correct operation of lamps in the oven, any control wiring or a clock for example.  As a safety concern please verify that you have a seperate neutral and ground wire.
 
Rich
 
 
2012/11/07 18:10:02
Crg
Psalmist35


Bub,
One thing that I noticed in the wiring diagram that no one has addressed is the requirement for a Nuetral (White) wire.  This is different and seperate from the ground wire.  I mention this because your comments indicatre that maybe some of the wiring methods in your home may be questionable.  The ground wire will obviously protect the user from getting shocked.  The netural is necessary to facilitate the correct operation of lamps in the oven, any control wiring or a clock for example.  As a safety concern please verify that you have a seperate neutral and ground wire.
 
Rich
 
 


Yep, that's important. 120/240-120/220. Two hot wires and a neutral and ground from the breaker box.
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