2017/09/21 22:47:47
spindlebox
I am looking to get a copy of Roland GrooveSynth.  Is there a way to purchase this synth separately?
 
2017/09/22 00:42:50
scook
Cakewalk does not sell it separately. The DXi is bundled with Artist/Professional and Platinum.
2017/09/22 01:12:29
spindlebox
that is such a bummer.  I used it on a song a few years ago that we are starting to perform live; my keyboardist uses Fruity Loops, and I was able to get Rapture to work with it, so we're at least able to use that - but I was able to purchase Rapture and it was easy to get it installed.  I wonder if there is a way I can copy the files over to make it work?  We tried moving the .dll over and it said it was looking for "mfc100u.dll", but there are a zillion of those on my machine.  Oh well.
2017/09/25 11:46:00
aidanodr
Spindlebox 
 
I assume you dont have SONAR? 
 
So why not try the 30 day demo of Sonar? I wonder does Groovesynth DXI come with the demo? At least as a one off you could load the MIDI of that song into Sonar Demo and then use the GROOVEBOX DXI there. Then FREEZE the Groovebox track to a WAV .. load wav into appropriate track in FL? Obviously set the Sonar tempo to correct track speed.
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Try-SONAR
 
2017/09/25 13:22:52
spindlebox
No I guess you didn't read my 2nd post.  I have Sonar (and have been using Cakewalk since the early 90's) and Groove synth, but my keyboardist is using another system and program for live performance.  We would have liked to load GrooveSynth on her system but unfortunately it is not available as standalone.
2017/09/25 13:32:14
aidanodr
spindlebox
No I guess you didn't read my 2nd post.  I have Sonar (and have been using Cakewalk since the early 90's) and Groove synth, but my keyboardist is using another system and program for live performance.  We would have liked to load GrooveSynth on her system but unfortunately it is not available as standalone.




I did read your 2nd post BUT I didnt see any mention of Sonar in that post you refer too.
 
But my idea still stands? So you have Sonar with GrooveSynth?
 
So load up that song into your Sonar with Groovesynth. Then FREEZE the groovesynth tracks so you end up with WAVs OR record out the tracks using Groovesynth to individual WAV files ( via export selected tracks )  Now you end up with LOOPs which you can import / add into your keyboardists software, the appropriate tracks .. you said they use Fruity Loops? 
 
OK the WAVs imported are sort of backing tracks BUT at least you have them for live.
2017/09/25 13:39:08
spindlebox
Well, yes, we have thought of that.  We were actually able to make a patch (sample) from my Sonar and she imported it as an SFX file into her player, so we're able to use it.  Fortunately, it's just a simple sound that doesn't arpeggiate - as the one we're using in Rapture does!  I love Rapture so much I bought it, and she has it installed on her system and now we're able to use it live.  (winning).  The only bad thing about this is that the note changes across the spectrum and with the note we sampled we are stuck with one, but it totally works well enough for live.  So it's slightly different, but it works.

Anyway, thank you for your advice and insight.  It would have been nice to have the synth itself on her system; there are a few on there she would have loved to play with, and it is a bit cumbersome to make patches, but it is what we will do if the need arises.
 
I did contact Roland (per Cakewalk support), and they do not make a standalone version of the synth unfortunately.  Seems a bit silly, and like it would be easy enough to do since it's software. ;)
2017/09/25 13:43:52
aidanodr
OK,
 
Could she use your system live? Is it a laptop? OR could you install your Sonar on a laptop for live and she installs FL on same? Then Groovesynth should be available in FL
 
I dont think that contravenes licensing as you can install Cakewalk on a few systems?
 
2017/09/25 13:47:59
spindlebox
She could but she is used to using what she is using and it works VERY well.  We're not going to do that for 1 synth.  I don't think I can install Sonar on her system because that is against the User Agreement & License?  It is not my system or machine so it is against the agreement I believe.

Sonar isn't exactly the best thing to use for live.  I know of some doing it, but it does not run very efficiently and starts bogging down if you don't have like a SUPER-MACHINE and aren't doing too much.  I actually use Reaper more because of that exact reason.
2017/09/25 13:53:28
aidanodr
Ok :D
 
Well you could buy her / or she buys a copy of Sonar Artist for $99 outright or $9.99pm ( out of gig cash :D ) .. And she gets Groovesynth BUT also a cr*p load more VSTs / Plugins that she could also use in Fruityloops / Reaper .. and also can get the hang of Sonar :D
 
@$9.99 per month .. after a year stop paying and she owns for ever
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions#start
 
Including Rapture Session  ( Rapture Pro you bought cost more than Sonar Artist @$149?? )
 
Just another angle :D .. 
 
 
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