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2017/06/23 15:52:45
Glyn Barnes
batsbrew

Glyn Barnes
I was listening to something else and Soundcloud pulled this up next at random. My reaction was wow, whats that! I like it a lot. If anything the drums are a bit lost sitening to it on my cheap logitech speakers, but maybe its you intention to keep them low key.

hey glyn,
maybe you listened to the wrong song.
there are no drums in this tune.


Odd and a bit embarrassing because I thought I could hear some very low in the mix. This time I cranked it right up and it was some of the muted guitar I was hearing and some other percussive sounds, particularly around 2:43. If I turn it back down I can see why I was mistaken on these speakers.
 
It sounds a lot better turned up! I will have to try it on my studio monitors later.
2017/06/23 17:53:56
batsbrew
Glyn Barnes
batsbrew

Glyn Barnes
I was listening to something else and Soundcloud pulled this up next at random. My reaction was wow, whats that! I like it a lot. If anything the drums are a bit lost sitening to it on my cheap logitech speakers, but maybe its you intention to keep them low key.

hey glyn,
maybe you listened to the wrong song.
there are no drums in this tune.


Odd and a bit embarrassing because I thought I could hear some very low in the mix. This time I cranked it right up and it was some of the muted guitar I was hearing and some other percussive sounds, particularly around 2:43. If I turn it back down I can see why I was mistaken on these speakers.
 
It sounds a lot better turned up! I will have to try it on my studio monitors later.


yes, that would be the more 'serious' critique i'm looking for!
heheh
2017/06/23 17:59:57
Wookiee
Well I am listening on my DT 100's as it is far to hot here in the UK at the moment to fire up the full studio, 31C, 88F in the studio and I do not have Air con, it is what one might call a furry melt down.

Its sounds great on them Bat, the tiny little bit of reverb you do have is just enough to create the right sense of space.  I will listen on the Adam's tomorrow and get back to you.
2017/06/23 19:01:33
batsbrew
thanks wookiee....
for listening and commenting,
i've gotta focus on exactly where that sibilence is, 
i think it's a buildup, and just a wrong choice on my lead vox setup...
 
2017/06/23 19:44:41
Glyn Barnes
batsbrew

yes, that would be the more 'serious' critique i'm looking for!
heheh

 Well I have now played it on the DAW and it sounds very good on my monitors. I think the level of reverb is good where it is. The mix does translate quite well onto the cheap speakers on my internet PC particularly when I turn it up, the "clickyness" at lower volumes is probably a function of those speakers and my slightly impaired high frequency hearing.


2017/06/23 20:59:59
batsbrew
you know, i think the clickiness MAY be the high end transients on the acoustics...
and your mention of that, makes me think that i've got high end boosted where i SHOULDN't...
 
like, maybe where ever the pick attack is, is too accentuated, and it only comes across that way at low listening...
which a lot of folks do..
 
so, i'm gonna play with that this weekend, try a de-ess on the vox, and maybe some selective compression on the guitars, on just the high mid bands...
that might just do it!!
thanks glyn
2017/06/24 12:26:48
Wookiee
Now I have had a chance to listen to it on the monitors I am hearing the sibilant's on the vocals, something DT's obviously are just not up to revealing.  I like the feel and groove of this IMPFO the ambience is just right it all sounds like it is being played and sung in the same space.

Nice stuff Bat.
2017/06/24 12:58:12
Frugaard
Really cool song! Other than the sibilance mentioned above here I think the mix sounds very good! Cool guitars and voice too! Great work :D
2017/06/24 13:59:05
timidi
batsbrew
yes, i have some high end issues...

 
What mic do you use on voc?
 
batsbrew
i think i need to fall back on that old adage "if everything is bright, then nothing is bright!"
LOL

 
sage advice
 
 
2017/06/25 22:59:39
batsbrew
Wookiee
Now I have had a chance to listen to it on the monitors I am hearing the sibilant's on the vocals, something DT's obviously are just not up to revealing. I like the feel and groove of this IMPFO the ambience is just right it all sounds like it is being played and sung in the same space.
Nice stuff Bat.
thanks wook,
since i posted this, i've already found that sibilence, and took care of it with extreme prejudice.
;)
 
Frugaard
Really cool song! Other than the sibilance mentioned above here I think the mix sounds very good! Cool guitars and voice too! Great work :D

alright fruggaard, thanks for listening...
thanks for the props

timidi
batsbrew
yes, i have some high end issues...


What mic do you use on voc?


hey timidi,
i think this mic was a ADK Hamburg..... and probably run thru a ART DPS preamp, into a DBX compressor, and into soundcard.





 
 
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