2017/11/30 22:33:41
Beepster
If you play your instrument(s) to acquire fame, money or vajoon... I question your credentials as an artist.
 
nttiawwt
 
but seriously... I play because the crazy goblins in my brainballs would rebel if I didn't...
 
YMMV
2017/11/30 23:53:06
michaelhanson
Beepster
If you play your instrument(s) to acquire fame, money or vajoon... I question your credentials as an artist.
 
nttiawwt
 
but seriously... I play because the crazy goblins in my brainballs would rebel if I didn't...
 
YMMV


Zactly
2017/12/01 02:43:54
Moshkito
Hi,
 
I don't know what the big deal is ... in the arts things come and go and then Strummy thinks of Michelangelo ... nothing new in that rhyme/equation!
 
I do think that the fault for the instruments falling into disarray, is because their company was being run by folks that thought that they could milk it and create a cash cow, by sending it to Mexico and to Taiwan, and in the end, the quality suffered, and not enough of those instruments were bought ... not to mention, that I would rather have a GIBSON any day than a EPIPHONE ... as was the case with the EB-0, that I ended up purchasing the EB-3 from EP, and it is not good, and you can't make a dead dog sound good, and I'm not sure that plugging that thing into Bapu's Marshal stack, with help ... I was practicing one day, just lightly tapping and plucking some (I use fingers and no picks), and within an hour the thing was out of tune ... I still wonder if that is unusual ... but that never happened to my EB-0 when I had it ... I'm even kind of afraid to take the EB-3 to the store to have them fix/tone the dang thing for fear that the folks in there will laugh so hard ... that a cheapie like that needs to be ... touched up!
 
The life and times of instruments ... it's weird ... and history suggests that they do not exactly die, however, the number of instruments made, pretty much suggests that the market for electric guitars was flooded badly, and is now paying the price for it not selling enough ... not to mention that every year, the main guitar makers make exactly the same thing ... and try to sell it yet again, as if it were an investment, and more often than not, it ain't even close ... it's just a cheap copy ... and many of those don't even make it to rehearsal or concert within an orchestra ... maybe to teach the kids how to pluck ... but a look at the guitar shops, and the insanity is almost stupid, and the copies even more so, specially when there is nothing different in them, except the color.
 
Another weird thing ... was watching the pretty lady play one of them Fender looking things, and the biggest thought in my mind was ... why was Fender not working on making sure musicians could get better instruments, instead of someone else making a better Fender Bass Guitar? Answer, these companies don't give a **** about musicians, specially the ones that are breaking out in their younger days ... and if you don't invest in your "children", wtf are you investing in?
2017/12/01 02:46:16
Beepster
Goodness to Betsy's!!!
 
#ahmnotreadingallthat
2017/12/01 07:24:55
craigb
I think he said something like "Guitarists are weird.  Becan!" 
 
#tl;dr
2017/12/01 15:59:54
Jari
"Gibson in serious problems?"

Oh gee... I wonder why's that...
 
- Min-ETune / "G-force" tuning systems
- Les Paul Standard "Painted-Over" Series
- Modern series
 
Plus this (obviously): Kids born in 2000s doesn't want to play guitar, they want to be DJ's! There are plastic controllers with flashy lights, e-shops full of samples to build a song (sorry: BEATS), etc. - it's no wonder that modern music sounds plastic. But everything goes in cycles and maybe one day it's cool to buy a guitar and play rock, but it might take some years.
 
I bought my first Gibson (SG) in 1990, sold it years later, but bought Gibson SG again in 2007. Last summer I bought Les Paul Traditional (really happy with its quality) and I love it. It's really sad that they've made some really stupid decisions only trying to boost guitar sales so here we are. They should fire their CEO, and start making high-quality robot-technology-free guitars again.
 
#nowlistening: The Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed
2017/12/01 16:10:42
jamesg1213
Jari
Kids born in 2000s doesn't want to play guitar, they want to be DJ's! 




I keep reading this on here. Is it actually true, or just something 'old geezers' say?
 
If I search YouTube, there are thousands of young kids playing guitar.
2017/12/01 16:19:25
Jari
Nowadays it's so easy to create a good quality content for a little money (or for free) and publish it on the intranet for all the world to hear. And there's nothing wrong with that, but it's no wonder why guitar sales are struggling.
 
When I was a teenager (back in the 80s) first you had to learn to play some instrument and if you wanted to record somethin' you had to buy a recorder (my choice was a 4-track Fostex) or rent a studio to make a demo tape.
2017/12/01 16:34:37
craigb
Running with James' comment...  Could it be that there are simply MORE kids making music now?  Maybe the same number playing guitar as before, but lots more doing loops, etc.?
2017/12/01 16:44:55
Jari
craigb
Running with James' comment...  Could it be that there are simply MORE kids making music now?  Maybe the same number playing guitar as before, but lots more doing loops, etc.?


If so, then why guitar sales are struggling? https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/lifestyle/the-slow-secret-death-of-the-electric-guitar/?utm_term=.41b02d2644e7
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