2017/12/01 18:13:03
igiwigi
I am bloody mad paying out all that money and also last year for Lifetime updates
They knew what was going to happen because lifetime updates pulled in quick money for th the struggling Gibbons.
We are the customer and have been screwed over.
For all I care you can throw Sonar in the bin  and start over .
Win 10 will gradually put Sonar out of action because they are all in the same game  MONEY!!
 
Most of us that can actually play music on a keyboard,who needs 1001 tracks and multiple effecting. 24 will do with some extras.
 
I will go Cubase Elements with my Genos and use Mixcraft pro for vst SIMPLE or in american SIMPLES!!
Forget pro this and that as it is only down to a musician who can play music.
 
RANT OVER!!!  long live DEEP PURPLE   "THE SURPRISING"
2017/12/01 18:30:09
BobF
For my part, I feel bad for the Cakewalk employees.
2017/12/01 18:30:47
chuckebaby
igiwigi
I am bloody mad paying out all that money and also last year for Lifetime updates



The cost of lifetime updates was the same as a years worth of updates.
I don't see how we (myself included) got screwed for that.
 
You have every right to be upset but this...
 
igiwigi
They knew what was going to happen

 
Is just your opinion.
 
I think your just in the different stages of mourning.
 
1- upset
2- confused
3- still upset
 
I do feel bad for Cakewalk employees. Most of them probably worked very hard and most of them probably didn't even know this was going to happen. not everyone is privy to inside company info. Even employees who work there.
Sure some of them are to blame. As well as Gibson. But none of us know the real story of what happened and we may never know the real story of what happened.
I cant and will never lay blame on people for something I don't even know details about.
 
2017/12/01 18:44:56
35mm
igiwigi
They knew what was going to happen...

The gibbons knew what was going to happen, but it seems Cakewalk didn't. From what I heard the Gibbon crones just marched into the Cake shop and said, "Right, pack up and go home. The show's over." I too feel very sad for the folks at Cakewalk.
2017/12/01 18:45:46
Ruben
chuckebaby
I think your just in the different stages of mourning.
 
1- upset
2- confused
3- still upset

 
The five stages of grief are:
1-Denial
2-Anger
3-Bargaining
4-Depression
5-Acceptance
 
You can see different folks in every category here on the forum.
2017/12/01 19:01:02
Leee
As much as I hate to agree, there were all sorts of rumors floating around the industry about Gibson getting rid of Cakewalk.  Yes, only rumors, but persistent rumors that even Cakewalk was most likely concerned about.   Plus it's been no secret that Gibson has been bleeding money for quite some time.

So while Cakewalk didn't know anything for certain, there was definitely writing on the wall.
But I got my lifetime subscription when it was first offered, and I can't complain about all the updates I got since then.
I definitely got my money's worth.  It was a win-win situation for both Cakewalk and it's customers.  Cakewalk/Gibson got a quick infusion of cash, and we users got a very sweet deal on monthly updates.

And finally, "Why is everybody sad for Cakewalk?"  I think the reasons are obvious.  The employees lost their jobs right before Christmas, with no advanced warning.  And it's sad because we're losing a great software company that many of us love very much, as well as future updates and support.   You can be MAD if you want, that won't change what's happened.  But we CAN be sad, because that's just how most of us feel.
2017/12/01 19:08:54
chuckebaby
Cakewalk had hired a couple great bakers (I think they were from Izotope).
I read this a few months back when they were in the forums explaining the new PRV changes.
They just released Momentum and 3 weeks later shut it down.
 
That doesn't seem like a "We should have seen the writing on the wall".
That sounds more like they were hiring better engineers to make a better product.
 
Im just as baffled as anyone of you. but I cant start saying "I blame you" without knowing the whole story.
2017/12/01 19:14:46
noldar12a
With all that has been made public, it seems that in many ways the Baker's hands were tied.
 
For me personally, the software had long since headed in a direction away from my needs, my account eventually became impossible to access, and it wasn't worth fixing (I am still on 8.5.3).  Nevertheless, one never wants to see a company like Cakewalk fail.  Certainly the failure hurts the industry as a whole, and being terminated just before Thanksgiving is flat out cold.
2017/12/01 19:27:10
dappa1
I'm not mourning this is an opportunity I should have taken before to switch to Studio One 3. I will do that in the not too distant future. Sonar is alright it did what it needed to do. There is always better. This dog has well and truly been put to sleep. Some may mourn some will just purchase a new dog. I was happy that the stock sounds were able to make half decent music with. Simple to use..some the Piano Roll view is a nightmare!!! How ever the fx were good some those are what made Sonar ok. I used to mess around in Ableton now that flows like the Niagra a little Studio that was fantastic. Sonar gets jammed a bit now and again. You have to remember sequences with other DAWS you just get on with it. Would never use Cubase it's too ridget. Great Piano Roll. Sonar is not the Be all and end all. Maybe it is the end. I don't see anyone coming in to rescue it. It didn't have the name on the street to easily promote it. You would have to put millions into it. I don't think even Microsoft would offer to do that. Maybe Richard Branson!
2017/12/01 19:34:12
joakes
igiwigi
I am bloody mad paying out all that money and also last year for Lifetime updates
They knew what was going to happen because lifetime updates pulled in quick money for th the struggling Gibbons.
We are the customer and have been screwed over.
For all I care you can throw Sonar in the bin  and start over .
Win 10 will gradually put Sonar out of action because they are all in the same game  MONEY!!
 
Most of us that can actually play music on a keyboard,who needs 1001 tracks and multiple effecting. 24 will do with some extras.
 
I will go Cubase Elements with my Genos and use Mixcraft pro for vst SIMPLE or in american SIMPLES!!
Forget pro this and that as it is only down to a musician who can play music.
 
RANT OVER!!!  long live DEEP PURPLE   "THE SURPRISING"


Grow up. Get over it. Life happens. You can still use Sonar for the foreseeable future.
 
As someone one (mebbe a different forum), you can now use Sonar until it breaks (how many years is that going to be ? ) but at the same time take your time in becoming proficient in another DAW.

But I do feel sorry more for those that lost their jobs, or will lose them in the future.

For those about to Bake (or Baked), I salute you !

Cheers,
Jerry
 
Edit : foratrocious spelling
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