2012/08/24 17:02:30
batsbrew
Bottom line, USADA does not have one test that Armstrong took that meets their criteria for a "positive test," only the word of "a dozen witnesses." And this is now all it takes to convict someone of a crime? 
2012/08/24 19:11:34
SteveStrummerUK

I always thought he was a pedaller.
2012/08/24 20:14:54
craigb
SteveStrummerUK


I always thought he was a pedaller.


2012/08/24 22:05:48
Old55
What does the US Agency of Dopes have to do with it anyway.  Isn't it Tour d' France?
2012/08/24 22:21:06
yorolpal
If you're really interested in Lances case there's plenty of info to be found...some of which might go a ways to changing your mind about this ol feller.  Or not.  My thinking is you NEVER quit when you're ahead.  After all that's how he won those seven TDFs, isn't it?

Hey McCue...what's your take?  You seem to follow this about as avidly as I used to.
2012/08/24 22:26:51
jhughs
Lance was an up-and-coming cycling star.
When he got sick, pretty much everyone in the cycling industry, except a few people, abandoned him.  I suspect a lot of his motivation and success was driven by a desire to crush the people who'd written him off and turned their back on him.  

As a person, I liked Miguel Indurain much better, but I think Lance was driven by forces more powerful than drugs or doping.
2012/08/25 14:09:33
Jonbouy

Remember that, in America, people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and, so far, there is no proof (just talk).


He's not been found guilty.

However he has chosen not to go the route of arbitration which means pretty much accepting the implication that he is.

It's still a case of innocent until proven guilty, he just didn't fancy the idea of answering the case against him, it was a case of either accepting sanctions put forward by the anti-doping body or contesting them.  He CHOSE not to contest.   It surprises me that he didn't contest being as has obviously enjoyed the publicity along the way of being seen as being a very persuasive character up until this point.  I'm not drawing any conclusions.

I do however think that retrospective sanctions are pretty much pointless, if the events themselves can't find fault at the time then it is the event itself that is failing the sport.

It certainly doesn't diminish in any way any good work he has done with his cancer charity either.
2012/08/25 14:28:43
DW_Mike
Monkey Arse!


He earned all of those with hard work and dedication.
The world knows it and he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.


They may have taken the medals but they can't take the win's.


Mike
2012/08/25 14:28:44
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jhughs


  but I think Lance was driven by forces more powerful than drugs or doping.

exactly and that's what they cannot understand...
2012/08/25 14:31:54
offnote
BTW now  Armstrong  should sue them for defamation.
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