2012/10/15 00:00:20
sharke
Over the past few months I've become interested in the theory that most people in the West are deficient in magnesium, and the various health problems this leads to. One of the more interesting aspects of this is the relationship between magnesium and hearing, specifically the effect that magnesium has in preventing noise induced hearing damage. 

Apparently a study was done in the military which looked at the effect of magnesium supplementation on noise damage suffered during military training involving firearms and explosions. It found that magnesium reduced the damage. This is interesting to me as a musician, because how many of us haven't worried at one time or another that we might permanently damage our hearing by exposing our ears to some kind of extreme noise event, or prolonged exposure to loud noise in general. 

I have moderate hearing loss above 15K, although I don't think it's too bad for my age (40). It does kind of freak me out however, especially since I had pin sharp hearing as a kid. I can distinctly remember as a small child hearing the different harmonics in people's voices very clearly, to the point where people almost sounded freakishly metallic if I concentrated on it. I can't do that now. 

I screwed with my ears in my late teens and early 20's - mainly due to the fact that the emerging rave scene was in full swing and I spent many weekends at the most ear splitting warehouse parties, dancing away to hard acid techno music at the most ridiculous volumes for sometimes 12 hours straight. On top of that there were loud gigs I attended, some time in bands, and daily headphone use at less than sensible volumes. I wonder if my hearing damage would have been less, had I not been magnesium deficient (my diet was pretty awful at the time). I also have tinnitus, which drives me mad sometimes but I've learned to live with it. Some say that tinnitus can partly be caused by the kind of brain damage that comes along with excessive use of drugs and alcohol, well I did plenty of that in my youth as well, although I cut it out altogether 10 years ago. 

I would truly hate it if my hearing or my tinnitus got worse due to one careless blast of sound through a pair of cans. I can't help thinking about Andy Partridge of XTC, who received severe permanent tinnitus in one ear due to a dumb studio engineer triggering a snare sample at full blast through his cans when he had them turned up full to listen for noise on a track. Or Pete Townsend, who had his ears screwed by a particularly insane Keith Moon drum explosion live on TV, or William Shatner, who lost some hearing and got tinnitus by standing too close to a stage explosion during the filming of Star Trek. I wonder if this sort of thing can be prevented or at least minimized by magnesium supplementation. Or if my hearing in general would improve. It's worth Googling the subject for links because there is much to be read on the subject. 

Anyway I'm taking a daily dose of magnesium, if not for the myriad of other health benefits it has, including muscle and joint pain and general relaxation. I found that the citrate form is way superior to the Mg oxide caps, and I've been taking a drink called Natural Calm twice per day. I have to say I do feel a lot more relaxed, I don't get as much neck pain and stiffness as I used to, and I sleep a hell of a lot better. Whether it's protecting my hearing or not, I cannot say, but I feel like I'm at least doing something in addition to the usual precautions. 


2012/10/15 00:18:36
57Gregy
Fifteen K?! Amateur.
I can't hear anything above about 8 K.
Unless it's real loud.
And there are no other noises happening.
 
But I'm going to look into this. If there's something to it and it may prevent more hearing loss, I'm all for it.
Thanks!
Any links?
2012/10/15 00:32:52
Bub
I did some tests a while back to see if I could here any differences between different sample rates. I discovered during that testing process that my hearing ranges from 35hz to 16.5kHz.

I've always had trouble with my ears retaining fluid. A few years back I had tubes put in and oh my God. I drove straight home and got out my Beatles albums. It was amazing. I have to go back and get the one removed because it shifted, and get one put in my left ear and I don't want to do it. Last time I had this done they said they can't do it in the doctors office anymore so I had to have out patient surgery and I stopped breathing on the operating table. What was supposed to be a 20 minute procedure ended up taking 3 hours after they got me breathing again and stabilized.

I think I'll try the Magnesium first. LOL!
2012/10/15 01:05:11
sharke
57Gregy


Fifteen K?! Amateur.
I can't hear anything above about 8 K.
Unless it's real loud.
And there are no other noises happening.
 
But I'm going to look into this. If there's something to it and it may prevent more hearing loss, I'm all for it.
Thanks!
Any links?

I would just Google "magnesium hearing" and sift through what comes up. You could also try "magnesium noise damage" if you want to look into that aspect of it. I think zinc is also something which is important for hearing, and something which most of us are deficient in (especially if you work out and/or sweat a lot). 




2012/10/15 01:08:17
sharke
Bub


I did some tests a while back to see if I could here any differences between different sample rates. I discovered during that testing process that my hearing ranges from 35hz to 16.5kHz.

I've always had trouble with my ears retaining fluid. A few years back I had tubes put in and oh my God. I drove straight home and got out my Beatles albums. It was amazing. I have to go back and get the one removed because it shifted, and get one put in my left ear and I don't want to do it. Last time I had this done they said they can't do it in the doctors office anymore so I had to have out patient surgery and I stopped breathing on the operating table. What was supposed to be a 20 minute procedure ended up taking 3 hours after they got me breathing again and stabilized.

I think I'll try the Magnesium first. LOL!

I wonder if I have something like that too. My left ear sometimes feels like it's blocked, especially so when I've been exercising. 


I had a plug of ear wax fall out on me in the pool years ago, that was a hoot. I felt something on my ear and took it off with my hand...it was a largeish brown lump which to be honest looked like poop. I then proceeded to wade past everyone in the shallow end, looking intently at this piece of poop in my hand. Can't have looked good 
2012/10/15 02:32:40
craigb
Interesting!
2012/10/15 04:41:57
Danny Danzi
I can't say any of the magnesium is true or not, but I've been on it for years. One in the morning, one at night. I've put my poor ears through war zones of loud, obnoxious music since I was 12. Thank God my hearing is in really good shape today due to being careful over the years...but there was a stretch there in the beginning where I'm sure I did some damage. If there is any truth to that magnesium, it's done a wonderful job for me I would say. I had no clue it would help with hearing....that's good to know!

-Danny
2012/10/15 05:53:57
spacey
I screwed with my ears in my late teens and early 20's
sharke



 


You think the '90s were fun...to bad you missed the '70's
2012/10/15 09:28:14
Wood67
I think there has always been a very strong correlation between age and the loss of hearing at particular frequencies.  Hence the increasing use by stores of using high frequency sounds to drive away 'youths' from store fronts.

I saw an interesting experiment on tv when about 15 people were lined up and asked to raise their hands when they were no longer able to hear a steadily increasing frequency tone.  Sure enough when the sample was re-arranged in the order they raised their hands, the resulting line was exactly in line with the increase in ages.

Unfortunately it is a sad fact of life that you will suffer a natural deterioration in high frequency perception, and probably no amount of magnesium or any other element will prevent it.  I've no doubt that a prolonged assault on the ears will further damage the nerves as well.  I witnessed this first hand maxing an IM album with Martin Birch - he simply had no high end response much above 10k, resulting in some of the harshest pre-mastering mixes I ever heard!
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