spacey

You don't address the internet infection problem by using a PC or Mac. That's just rediculous.
It's simple to address and shouldn't be an issue or concern at all......especially with your recording
unit.
  

I have to agree. Whenever I got infected it was always my fault.

offnote

spacey

You don't address the internet infection problem by using a PC or Mac. That's just ridiculous.
It's simple to address and shouldn't be an issue or concern at all......especially with your recording
unit.
 

I have to agree. Whenever I got infected it was always my fault.

No reason to elaborate...I fully understand.
Me imagining you getting an infection from updating your banking account balance
is much the same as me switching to a Mac because I got an infection from my bank.
And should I? Well it won't be computers I'd be switching.
 
And if I ever get a virus on my recording PC because I clicked on a photo...well I just
pull out a guitar and shoot myself in the brainpan.

Hi,
 
I'm not sure that Windows is the problem ... I think they have improved considerably ... but there are some things in hardware that are downright scary ... and should have been handled before and I still think that this is by agreement, or Microsoft INTENTIONALLY stating that it is not going to allow it.
 
There is nothing simpler than to take two signals and mix them together as they come though ... but a sound card with Windows, in general does not allow it, and not "record it" ... when it could easily mix them and then record AFTER the mix ... which makes it one signal only.
 
For all intents and purposes, Microsoft has made the use of their machines with music intentionally more difficult, but musicians, as smart and adaptable as they are can always get around anything, including Microsoft.
 
It could be said that a Mixer, or something similar would be better and give you better control, but in the end, all that Windows did is make things more difficult. And one of its worst things? ... the little software that they have for their sound cards, is not something that you would buy for your best friend, wife, or child! It's total crap ... and you have to "select" microphone, or this or that ... like it really maters?

Moshkiae


Hi,
 
I'm not sure that Windows is the problem ... I think they have improved considerably ... but there are some things in hardware that are downright scary ... and should have been handled before and I still think that this is by agreement, or Microsoft INTENTIONALLY stating that it is not going to allow it.
 
There is nothing simpler than to take two signals and mix them together as they come though ... but a sound card with Windows, in general does not allow it, and not "record it" ... when it could easily mix them and then record AFTER the mix ... which makes it one signal only.
 
For all intents and purposes, Microsoft has made the use of their machines with music intentionally more difficult, but musicians, as smart and adaptable as they are can always get around anything, including Microsoft.
 
It could be said that a Mixer, or something similar would be better and give you better control, but in the end, all that Windows did is make things more difficult. And one of its worst things? ... the little software that they have for their sound cards, is not something that you would buy for your best friend, wife, or child! It's total crap ... and you have to "select" microphone, or this or that ... like it really maters?

what are you saying is a complete nonsense, not sure if you're high or a kid who just started with computers but whatever.... don't have time for BS, grow up and educate yourself then try again.

To all....

This was not meant to be PC vs Mac for recording post. Or about putting my PC on the interweb. Or my departure from the Forum.

Firstly let me state clearly (Bub, no offense here, ok?). My Sonar DAW never saw the outside world of the interweb; or a network for that matter. Period! My issue is that Microsoft Windows OS is prone to having problems introduced by the developers of the OS itself. Sad but true (and Win Vista aside, Win 7 has it's problems too). I've downloaded updates from the Microsoft download site to enable functionality of updates to DAW specific hardware and software and had to deal with unexpected behaviors. I've also had to re-stabalise my system afterwards. The downloads occurred on a properly protected Win 7 machine I use for surfing, then transferred after scanning by way of USB drive.

Secondly, in building a PC for recording there is so much that needs to be done in optimizing the PC to enable recording. It is for me, not the optimum operating system to plug and play. For me Windows sucks, when it comes to recording. When adding additional hardware I have found the need to re-balance and re-stabaliise the OS almost every time . Not acceptable when I'd rather spend my time creating.

I like Sonar PE workflow. That's not the issue. What Cakewalk does is great. Would I like Sonar on Mac, yes. But that is not what my problem is. When I want to be able to create, i don't want to be hindered by the tools I use. 

My MacBook works seamlessly with my hardware. Yes I do have antivirus on it as it is susceptible to any UNIX or Mac attacks (not to be confused with a Big Mac Attack). I was trying to be humorous about it. Some take this way too seriously. Reality check !!!

Just because someone likes blueberry muffins over pancakes because it is what works for them does not make it bad. Folks that are using Sonar over Pro Tools have their reasons why. It is the tool that works for them the best.

Windows does not work for me when it comes to recording. Macs have their issues as well. One of them being cost and ease of upgradability. Please don't be fooled by the Mac doesn't have issues crowd.

As for my departing this forum. I won't be. (Sorry Pete. I do miss you, mate. It's been a long time since we have heard from you). I shall be hear (misspelling intended) with the usual sarcasm, dry wit, and feeble insight.

I just see that the opportunity for using a tool that enables creativity for me just happens to be a Mac. It's what works. That's the way of it, right?

Well said Doc.

Now can we get back to the battle guys.

Last I heard the score was:

Mac = 3.988768545
P=4.0000000003

Do I worry about infections from the internet? NO. Not one good reason to. Do I worry about infections from the internet on my recording PC? NO. It isn't used to surf. Microsoft

 
The real issue here, is that not enough people realize that if you are going to use the computer for music, it really needs to be exclusive for that ... and not be influenced by the externals and all the underneath hits and connections that so much software does -- THAT YOU DON'T KNOW about, that eventually interferes with your work ... and causes another pop or interruption ... and Microsoft will NOT give you the option to stop that ... when you are ... let's say ... recording music!
 
It was believed that the 64-bit systems did not do that, but they do ... !!!! ... so you're paying more ... to help Microsoft hide things even more! But if you think that Apple does not do the same thing, you are mistaken, and wrong, btw!

bapu


Well said Doc.

Now can we get back to the battle guys.

Last I heard the score was:

Mac = 3.988768545
P=4.0000000003

+1

bapu


Well said Doc.

Now can we get back to the battle guys.

Last I heard the score was:

Mac = 3.988768545
P=4.0000000003

 
No mate, the real score is:

• STRAUMMY 7,372 -v- PISSYPETE 0

 
Harsh, but true.
 
 

SteveStrummerUK

bapu


Well said Doc.

Now can we get back to the battle guys.

Last I heard the score was:

Mac = 3.988768545
P=4.0000000003

 
No mate, the real score is:

• STRAUMMY 7,372 -v- PISSYPETE 0

 
Harsh, but true.
 
 

don't sugarcoat your feelings Strum,