2012/09/22 22:07:36
offnote
How about Alan Parson Project songs, sound to me very well recorded as well, no wonder 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COTR5NiHkCc
2012/09/22 23:48:24
sharke
jbow



Having some fun listening to 1920's jazz today and stumbled on this recent homage recording. The "sound" just dropped my jaw: http://grooveshark.com/s/...ng+Oliver/1OUTms?src=5



That is amazing for something from the 20s. BTW, I got a malware warning about the Grooveshark website from Google. I listened to a bit anyway, malware doesn't bother me much anymore... it is just like a fly, I can kill it... but I don't think I got anything, Norton didn't give me a warning and N-360 is pretty good at it. It has kept me computer clean, I think W-7 has helped too. Anyway, the trumpet fidelity is pretty amazing for that time period, I agree.


J
It's not from the 20's, it's a modern recording. 

2012/09/23 00:36:57
Jeff Evans
Yes that Wynton recording is quite modern and its quite a live recording at that. You know what is cool about that recording though is he fact they have got the drums panned hard left and the piano hard right. There is virtually no drums on the piano channel and visa versa. They must still have been close enough to hear each other. It is a great example of mic placement. Because there is so much room in that recording they may have used mics in figure 8 patterns in various configs. eg Blumlein or MS

Here is a nice example of the sort of thing I am talking about.

http://grooveshark.com/#!..ay+Is+Done/2uJEv4?src=5

It is Brad Mehldau trio playing a tune called 'Day is Done' from one of his recent albums. Drums (and piano and bass) could never sound this good years ago. I must also point out the the CD sounds much better. You are probably listening to a compressed mp3 with this on GrooveShark. Not sure what their resolutions are.  

Check out the 3 bass solos first with the first two and octave up and then the third down and a key change (down a half step) before the piano solo.  And key changes before various choruses.

2012/09/23 01:20:26
sharke
Jeff Evans

It is Brad Mehldau trio playing a tune called 'Day is Done' from one of his recent albums. Drums (and piano and bass) could never sound this good years ago. I must also point out the the CD sounds much better. You are probably listening to a compressed mp3 with this on GrooveShark. Not sure what their resolutions are.  


I'm not sure but it sounds better on my Spotify Premium account, which streams at 320kbps. 
2012/09/23 07:29:28
The Maillard Reaction
sharke


jbow



Having some fun listening to 1920's jazz today and stumbled on this recent homage recording. The "sound" just dropped my jaw: http://grooveshark.com/s/...ng+Oliver/1OUTms?src=5



That is amazing for something from the 20s. BTW, I got a malware warning about the Grooveshark website from Google. I listened to a bit anyway, malware doesn't bother me much anymore... it is just like a fly, I can kill it... but I don't think I got anything, Norton didn't give me a warning and N-360 is pretty good at it. It has kept me computer clean, I think W-7 has helped too. Anyway, the trumpet fidelity is pretty amazing for that time period, I agree.


J
It's not from the 20's, it's a modern recording. 


Additionally, my olpal, pointed out that it is a sound-a-like of a song that was written by Sy Oliver, circa 1941, that was popularized by the Tommy Dorsey Band.

I had been listening to King Oliver tunes from the late 1920s and then stumbled on this recent recording because of the title being found by the search.




Grooveshark receives a lot of criticisms... many of them seem to be valid. I've never had a malware warning pop up. I would not have linked to something I knew had that sort of issue. I'm sorry you had to encounter that. Maybe it is browser specific? I don't allow popups, maybe it was something in the popups? Thanks for passing on the info about that.


best regards,
mike
2012/09/23 07:37:58
The Maillard Reaction

Hi Jeff,
 Oh my... The Brad Mehldau trio recording, the performance, and the chart does sound fantastic.

 Wow.

 Thanks for the heads up.

 FWIW, the groove shark version seems to be 192kbs... the CD must sound out of this world.

 


 It's great to hear musicians that mix them selves.

 It's great to listen to a drummer who plays as if he is a musician.

 The bassist is super hot... and the tone is so nice, especially the way it hangs when the other guys bring up the levels... he doesn't bloom in an effort to get louder... he just keeps the bass tone solid like a foundation. The pianist is one of those guys who seems so good you sort of forget it's not an easy instrument to play.

 Thanks for adding to the thread.

 best regards,
mike


 
2012/09/23 10:08:15
Jeff Evans
Hi Mike, I am glad you liked Brad Mehldau. They are all amazing in that trio and just when you thought you had heard it all in terms of the Jazz trio eg Piano, Bass and Drums someone like Brad comes along and redefines it. They say he will go down in Jazz history as someone who created a very unique and original sound for this very standard line up.

The CD's are very nice sounding, all of them. Brad has done pop covers too from bands such as Radiohead and re interpreted them into a great modern jazz trio setting. 

Original here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ1iMQA0egc

Brad version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXHgdUirkE

My son says he is going to end up playing in that trio and the way he is going lately I don't doubt it. Frank Gambale recently told me when he was here in Melbourne he has always dreamed of playing with Return to Forever and after many years he actually got to do just that with their recent world tour. He had to pinch himself to make sure it was not all a dream.

Speaking of modern recordings too Any Chick Corea album is going to sound pretty nice especially any late digital releases. That engineer actually came out and mixed the live shows and I was sitting a few rows in front of the console and it sounded amazing.

2012/09/23 10:35:43
jbow
Thanks, I misunderstood (half read) the OP about the 20s thing. I am having to use Chrome with this forum because for some reason most pictures, in posts, stopped displaying when using ie8. I have panicware popup blocker there but the popup blocker on Chrome is pretty much useless, unless I don't understand how to use it... which is a distinct possibility.

Anyway, I liked the song!

J
2012/09/23 11:36:38
jbow
I ALSO THINK SOME OF THE BEST RECORDINGS EVER MADE WERE FROM LATE 50S THRU 60S. LISTEN TO SOME ORIGINAL RELEASE EDDIE ARNOLD, JIM REEVES, MARTY ROBBINS ... 



...and I'm sure everyone has heard about the (early at least) Motown recordings done in a basement with a dirt floor on a three track controlled from the back porch. The place and the gear isn't nearly as important as the talent. I am convinced that there is a magic when the singer and band are all together in a room recording that most people cannot replicate with the modern "one track at a time" method... though some certainly can. Tom Scholtz did a pretty good job on the first Boston album. Will Owsley (RIP) did a great job on his first album: Owsley. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owsley_(musician) 

Then there was Emitt Rhodes: ...in the early 1970s, he was "one of the finest artists on the music scene today," according to Billboard. At age 20, he'd already recorded "one of best albums of the decade" -- singlehandedly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPDy6m1S-rQ

Harry Fox agency has a lock on Emitt's song Lullaby for some reason.. 

Julien
2012/09/25 11:39:23
daryl1968
I want to add Jimi Hendrix 'Crosstown Traffic' - sounds as fresh and energetic now as ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUwjyr17l0M
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