2012/09/23 12:13:55
offnote
let's face it, apple is first of all for technically challenged and older people although that itunes interface they come up with for uploading files and music is the most stupid and un-intuitive piece of garbage software I have ever tried to use.
Plus they force you to use it, how american is that? where is the freedom? 
p.s.
hey tell me that you still cannot attach files to your email, how ridiculousness is that?

2012/09/23 12:19:43
The Maillard Reaction

I can see that you aren't worried about facts.

:-)



2012/09/23 12:20:04
jbow
let's face it, apple is first of all for technically challenged and older people



Well, the i-phone it is then.


J
2012/09/23 13:04:05
Rain
musicman100



more calls since the new i-phone came out? I wonder if all the people playing with apps are choking the system.
sharke
 


I wouldn't put off buying an iPhone 5 just for the maps.  

1) It'll get better in time 
2) There are map apps available that are way better anyway.  

I would just put off buying an Ifone, period, because of the contrived mass hype about  it,, so let me ask you ... 
  
you need to call mobile from a cell phone,, wont ANY cell fone do that ??? 
  
  
you want to text,, wont any equiped cell fone do that? 
  
you want apps... maps... angry birds... blah blah... WHY do you need that MOBILE? .. see what did we d before all this crap? I can see in CERTAIN instances mapping while walking ,,, what you dont have a GPS? in the car? but other than that ,,, you are sucumbing  to the alter of Apple... 
  
ok Rant over , sorry, I see too many lemmings .. camping out 3 days before to buy the golden calf,,, geez... 
  
  
The Beatles were the object of a cult among teenage girls back in the days - and are still often wildly overrated - which doesn't prevent me from appreciating and enjoying their music. In fact, they are indeed my favorite band.


The whole thing reminds me of DAW software. If you tell certain persons - including the manufacturers - that you'd like this or that feature which is available in other software, they'll instantly argue in favor of the absence of that feature and tell you that their workaround works just as well. Then when the feature in question finally gets implemented, they'll make some big claims about it and how it'll improve your workflow as if it were the best thing since sliced bread.


I've noticed the same thing in regards to Apple products. For years, many PC users have put down Apple products because, for example, too much emphasis was put on the GUI or because it didn't let users tweak the registry and optimize it as much as, say, XP could be optimized. But when Win 7 shows up, suddenly, what was regarded as a shortcoming on the other platform becomes one of the highlights of Windows - it becomes a selling factor not to have to optimize Windows, to have default settings that "just work" and things that just take care of themselves. 


When I look at Win 8 for example, I see an early, poor and chaotic implementation of concepts that have been an inherent part of OSX for a couple of years. Notice that I'm not saying that the engine underneath doesn't perform as well or even better than OSX. 


The iPhone has it flaws, but overall, it's a darn fine little device. As to what we used to do before all those things like smart phones, I often ask myself the same question - ours have sure been extra useful recently. For exemple, when we went to buy the car after we moved here and the salesperson unexpectedly asked us for 3 local references w/ phone numbers and addresses, it was a matter of a few minutes gathering that info w/ the iPhone via phone/texting and Facebook messages and shout-outs. Certainly spared us a lot of time.




2012/09/23 13:18:28
paulo
Rain

 when we went to buy the car after we moved here and the salesperson unexpectedly asked us for 3 local references w/ phone numbers and addresses, it was a matter of a few minutes gathering that info w/ the iPhone via phone/texting and Facebook messages and shout-outs. Certainly spared us a lot of time.
And you couldn't have done that with any other make of phone ?

As for needing references to buy a car...........well guess which salesperson wouldn't have gotten my money ?

Strange days.
 



2012/09/23 13:21:32
Rain
paulo


Rain

 when we went to buy the car after we moved here and the salesperson unexpectedly asked us for 3 local references w/ phone numbers and addresses, it was a matter of a few minutes gathering that info w/ the iPhone via phone/texting and Facebook messages and shout-outs. Certainly spared us a lot of time.
And you couldn't have done that with any other make of phone ?

As for needing references to buy a car...........well guess which salesperson wouldn't have gotten my money ?

Strange days.

That's why I specified "smart phone" instead of iPhone. ;)


It seems it's pretty much a common request when you're from a foreign country w/ no local credit history for car salesmen to ask for references. All those we've visited had that same requirement. 


2012/09/23 13:28:43
paulo
Rain


paulo


Rain

 when we went to buy the car after we moved here and the salesperson unexpectedly asked us for 3 local references w/ phone numbers and addresses, it was a matter of a few minutes gathering that info w/ the iPhone via phone/texting and Facebook messages and shout-outs. Certainly spared us a lot of time.
And you couldn't have done that with any other make of phone ?

As for needing references to buy a car...........well guess which salesperson wouldn't have gotten my money ?

Strange days.

That's why I specified "smart phone" instead of iPhone. ;)


It seems it's pretty much a common request when you're from a foreign country w/ no local credit history for car salesmen to ask for references. All those we've visited had that same requirement. 


So a couple of people on Facebook say that you're a stand-up guy and it's......... congratulations sir, here's the keys ?
2012/09/23 13:33:26
sharke
offnote


sharke


offnote


mike_mccue


For me, I want the iPhone because the camera and the available apps blow away anything I have seen on Droid.

When I use my wife's iPhone to take a snap shots the results are so rewarding that the experience is fun.

When I take one with my Droid and the results are not so much.


best,
mike



oh please, that excuse doesn't work anymore - droids phones and tablets are not worse then apple's.
Rather the opposite they're better, more flexible and expandable unlike Apple. I wpi;d never buy a device
where manufacture us telling me what to do, never.  
Also the difference in number of apps decreases each day, BTW how many apps do you really need??? 
I used to think the same about the iPhone. But after using one primarily for business for 2 years, I've changed my mind. The "closed shop" of Apple might be restrictive, but it has resulted in a very reliable device that works brilliantly with not a lot that can go wrong.
mind you most business users are using blackberry not iOS or droids... 

I used a BlackBerry for years, stubbornly thinking it was the best all round smartphone for business. Turns out I was wrong. On my BlackBerry, I couldn't even sync multiple separate calendars to it like I can on the iPhone. I spent hours and hours researching possible ways of doing it before I gave up and got an iPhone. And it turns out email is actually better on the iPhone too. Not only that but I have 1000x more apps to choose from, and even when an app is available for BlackBerry, the iPhone version is usually 3 times better. Not to mention the fact that RIM is on its way out. BlackBerries are actually great phones for lots of reasons, but not for my purposes. 
2012/09/23 13:34:46
Rain
Nah, that's not how it works. But since we travel a lot and since many of our friends do toowe use FB to stay in touch. Phone numbers and addresses change all the time.

FB simply made it easier to retrieve certain friends whom we knew were here in Vegas but whose contact info we didn't have.
2012/09/23 13:36:37
offnote
I don't have a problem with people buying apple products, I bought a few myself but all that hype about it
is just ridiculous. They used to have better quality and better design but not anymore. For me anybody who is standing in the line for hours to get a stupid piece of electronics is just crazy and brainwashed. 
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