I appreciate the videos and the time put into making them. I haven't downloaded X2 yet but I should have the links in my mailbox. I'm excited to try it out tonight.

 The nice thing about X2 seems to be that we are building on prior knowledge for the most part instead of learning a whole new GUI like the last time.Some things are different but not everything.

How about one of those video camera interfaces?  You could start/stop recording or playback with a wave of your hand and have a virtual theremin.  It's probably not very practical for mixing.  Any other ideas for using something like that? 

The specs and interfaces already exist.  I bet the toughest part would be licensing. 

Mesh

SteveStrummerUK

spacey


Every single move is written out for him. He follows each detailed step.
As a viewer the experience is amazingly real. One feels as if they are right by his side
and feels they too could perform the task when completed.
 

Hey Mike, just out of interest, have you checked out the excellent VIDEO produced by our very own Karl (aka FastBikerBoy)? He goes into a lot of detail on virtually every aspect of X2. I consider myself quite a quick learner, but my taking the information on board depends a lot how it is portrayed. Page after page of technical manuals don't really do it for me; I find them great for using as a 'reference' tool, but not as a 'learning' tool. I appreciate the difference is subtle, but I think it's valid.
 
From what I've watched so far of Karl's video, it's clear that it's been really well thought out, and the information is presented logically and clearly. And because it's in video format, it's easy to run the content on one monitor (and being able to pause/rewind etc at will) while having X2 open on my other monitor so I can actually work through the ideas presented. I find that, for me anyway, this 'hands on' approach to learning works really well.
 
 

spacey


Now what we are going to do is this-
We're going to make a 3D instructional video of using X2 from the beginning to the end of
a tune, radio ready, of a three piece band first.
There will be nothing prepared it will be done from scratch to completion.
 

Cool idea. Again, I'd certainly pick up a lot from something like this.
 
Haven't they done something like this for previous version/s of SONAR?
 
 

+1 Steve.
 
I too like to learn from the tutorials running on one screen and Sonar on the other as I did this with a lot of the Groove3 video's.
I'm glad to see the endorsement on Karl's video (thanks) and will be getting that along with X2.

 
And because Karl is a SONAR user anyway, he knows exactly what it's like to learn the program. This puts him in the perfect position to present the information in a way the rest of us can also really relate to. I hope this is just the beginning for him - I'd happily support him in future videos regarding anything to do with X2, and think it's a no-brainer that he gets the gig for X3.
 
This reminds me of a time many moons ago when I was considering a move into freelance photography. I'd been a pretty keen amateur for a while and was absorbing information from books and magazines like a sponge. But I was fortunate enough to be good pals with an old guy who really knew his stuff and who'd worked with large/medium format gear in the studio and in the field, as well as SLRs. We used to go on photography trips and he passed on his knowledge of the theory of the subject 'hands on'.
 
I think I was using a Canon A1 as my main camera body at the time but he got me using it in full manual mode with handheld meters (both ambient and reading off a gray card); and he also introduced me to the benefits of such things as underexposing slide film by half a stop coupled with using a circular polarising filter. On those occasional days out, I learnt more from dear old Albert about the relationship between film speed, focal length, shutter speed and aperture than any amount of just reading I'd done about it.
 
 
 
 
 
 

If some can project a holographic keyboard, why not a holographic console projected onto the desk (the real wooden desktop)? 

Gentlemen...the day has come to show our customers that X2 not only works but to show it in detail. We want our customers to know not only that we provide a product but we provide everything except the talent to create music. Limit this first video to keyboard and mouse use only. 

Great idea Spacey. My X3 (tongue in cheek) feature request was for Brandon and Seth to personally visit each of us for a personal full day seminar. Of course I know that wont happen but I think you captured what I really wanted to say.


@ Steve: The dual monitors is a great idea, I had not thought of that and I think it will really help me and i totally agree my uptake completely depends on the presentation. Most teachers assume that I know more than I do and I have high expectations for Karl's video. This has me a bit excited and that is not and easy thing to do these days.


This is a helpful thread... I woulld add a helpful banner to the OP and to Steve's post if I knew how


Julien

Thank you Julien for the wakeup call.
In my little head I just mark everyone as helpful.

I can follow by reading and listening but we know it's not the same.

A live video (or no edits) has the potiential to help that is offered no other way.
Naturally it should be fun and real...like being there with them.

If I were to make one ( which I simply don't have the talent to do) I would want the
viewer (camara man) to be connected to at least a few people that could relay questions
and or suggestions....a recording of a live project.

Keep the equipment simple and something for everyone and hit as many X2 functions as possible. Drums, bass, guitar, keyboard/synth.

The only preperation would be the tune - only in the head of the host. No big production
or lengthy tune.
Focus on-
Starting the project- template, stored folders, etc...
What instrument first and why..
Ya'll get it....and probably better than I do.

And don't stop for problems....show how it is....how to handle...if it can be handled.

Make it as a one person experience. Direct in for the bass/guitar....amps - mic'ing all that
could be a different project.

I think after the first one a second one just like the first one -to cover any and everything
that was missed or that could be done in a completely different way would be good.

It just may be what Cake needs to see. How a dummy like me has to struggle.
They just may realize how many things aren't so simple or work the same for someone else.....just a thought...I could be wrong.

So I'm still trying to figure out who those "Gentlemen" are to which you referred in the OP #1.....  

or does it even matter?


Nice ideas... of course we all know that it's wishful thinking...and cake will claim they already do all of that anyway...... 

Guitarhacker


So I'm still trying to figure out who those "Gentlemen" are to which you referred in the OP #1.....  

or does it even matter?


Nice ideas... of course we all know that it's wishful thinking...and cake will claim they already do all of that anyway...... 

Now imagine that I run the business and I'm talking with all the bakers.... Well boys...what next? You tell us boss. Ok I will....

No....my wishful thinking is in another thread I just posted. This one is much more. It is
about them showing how to use EVERYTHING that they've put in X2.
Show that it works. And don't use edited video....sit down and do it. More of a challenge wouldn't you say?
And if they can?....what a great instructional video it would be. No losers, we all win.