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  • are you not afraid of posting your music? (p.5)
2012/09/21 11:38:14
offnote
Guitarhacker


as far as getting the people who "really" matter (ie: industry insiders with artist contacts) .... yeah, your chances of that are pretty slim.... nobody in the biz with good contacts accepts unsolicited material. They only take "recommended" material and just try getting someone to recommend your songs....... 

ok so can you recommend mine stuff and I'll recommend yours and we'll be covered?  would that work or actually the whole Cakewalk would have to
sign recommendation?
2012/09/21 12:01:53
spacey
Guitarhacker


spacey


Guitarhacker


spacey


"nope... I'm not worried. As hard as it is to get someone to listen to the music"- Herb

Man that was good to me!
Herb, Jeff called me quite some time back and asked, "you listening to our songs?"...
no I replied. He said well somebody is...and my side was hurting from laughing so hard.



Yeah... I post new tunes here on the songs and on Facebook too.... but.... looking at the numbers, more people here actually listen.... FB is a bust for getting people to the music. 


as far as getting the people who "really" matter (ie: industry insiders with artist contacts) .... yeah, your chances of that are pretty slim.... nobody in the biz with good contacts accepts unsolicited material. They only take "recommended" material and just try getting someone to recommend your songs....... 


"People that really matter"....LOL you're a funny guy today Herb!

I sincerely appreciate every person here who takes the time out of their day to listen to my music and comment on it.... no doubt about that....everyone here matters and everyone here is important and a member of this family.


I was referring to the music industry movers and shakers.... the ones who can take the song and get it to the big artists...... 


No one here that I know of has the connections to walk into the office of the president of Sony records Nashville and tell him this song needs to be Trace Adkins next #1 release...... and have it happen..... that's what I meant when I said that.... but you knew that....

LOL!  you could have just said, "yeah, that's funny ****". LOL
 
2012/09/21 12:05:35
offnote
Guitarhacker


No one here that I know of has the connections to walk into the office of the president of Sony records Nashville and tell him this song needs to be Trace Adkins next #1 release...... and have it happen..... that's what I meant when I said that.... but you knew that....

and how would you know that? many anonymous and mysterious members here...
no one really knows who is Bapu for instance... 
2012/09/21 12:14:03
yorolpal
I believe you meant "no one really knows WHAT is Bapu".
2012/09/21 12:15:55
Beagle
offnote



 

and how would you know that? many anonymous members here...
no one really knows who is Bapu for instance... 
oh yes we do.
 
 
yessssss, we do!

2012/09/21 12:21:53
spacey
He's a Spacey bass player and no Olymbic player can say that...'cept him.
2012/09/21 13:05:28
Rain
yorolpal


 It has been my experience that true professional music producers and creators are, for lack of a better term, not "studying you".  Or me.  There are simple self evident reasons why you (or me) is not yet an international mega star.  My advice is to learn how to live with that. YMMV.

You know Ol Pal, that's one thing I often find myself thinking about.


My younger brother started his musician career in his early 20s. In a matter of a few years, his released musical output was 10 times as big as mine, and he had played more concert in a couple of years than I had in all my life. In all honesty, the important thing for me is to write and learn - the rest eludes me.


One major difference between me and all the pros and semi-pros that I have met throughout the years is that, as serious and obsessed as I am w/ music, I never had that sort of sacred respect for my music. It always surprises me to see how musicians will treat their music w/ consideration, each song as a piece of their legacy or something. I visited a friend in Montreal last spring and we discussed a collaboration. He had all those versions and mixes of a song that he'd been working on on and off for years.


I cannot feel that need myself. I have a sort of disregard for my own stuff once it's written. By the time I'm done mixing it, I'm already into the next thing. For example, almost all of the music that I wrote between 2000 and 2009 is on hard drives stored somewhere in Qc, along w/ dozens of reels of analog tape and countless hours of material that I wrote and recorded before 2000. I don't see myself buying a PC and running Sonar just to access those. I gave away the reel to reel tape machine. Practically, I might as well have dumped all that stuff. 


I don't have a copy of my released material. I have a few songs of mine as mp3, and that's basically it. But I have all those songs I've written in my head and remembering them is enough.


And sometimes, I'll hear music on the radio or iTunes and go - man, that's the kind of song idea I had a thousand times and just didn't pursue, as if it wasn't worth the attention. In all humility. Plus, I wouldn't want to be stuck writing in one particular direction. I don't want to play the songs again and again or promote them, I just want to write and record it. After that, I'm done w/ them. 


Not until I started writing for my wife did I start being methodic and careful w/ my own stuff, treating it w/ respect, as part of a bigger picture - because it no longer is just mine. 

It's not that I don't believe in myself or my talent, but, I have no interest in defining myself through these songs, building a body of work. I just need to write and create stuff, all the time. The results are almost considered a simple byproduct.
2012/09/21 14:14:13
offnote
Rain


It's not that I don't believe in myself or my talent, but, I have no interest in defining myself through these songs, building a body of work. I just need to write and create stuff, all the time. The results are almost considered a simple byproduct.

well, that's the difference between hobby and a profession - when you have contracts and obligations you cannot have that attitude, excuses or fears anymore unfortunately. This is actually good for you anyway because you will build up some portfolio over the time in oppose when you were only noodling for yourself in the bedroom.





2012/09/21 14:30:29
Rain
Oh I did it for a living too, and still do it on occasion, mind you. And it's not in contradiction w/ my attitude actually. A contract or a gig have very little to do w/ me - it's music on demand, for a purpose, and I can deliver that no problem, and be very methodic and organized.

But I'm referring to my own music, things that I write w/o constraints.

2012/09/21 14:40:27
Old55
spacey


He's a Spacey bass player and no Olymbic player can say that...'cept him.

Spacey bass is much better, no?
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