2013/06/08 20:56:38
trimph1
@Beepster...wonderful outlay of the tricks of the trade here!!
 
The thing I was looking at seems to pretty well match up with what I was thinking Lemmy was doing when he was with Hawkwind...some of the chording was something else..
 
Again, thanks guys for your input..you all are part of the reason I like this forum so much!!
2013/06/08 22:42:42
Kev999
I should also mention that pickup design is another factor influencing whether chords will sound ok on a bass.  With some pickups, the signals from 2 separate coils don't mix together well.
 
2013/06/09 08:49:36
Beepster
I'm glad you liked it, Trimph. Sorry I couldn't get some fretboard charts in there but as I said the format was making it a hassle. Good mental exercise putting it all into text anyway. It has been a loooong time since I've given a bass lesson. lol
 
As far as Mr Kilmeister... although he is revered by many I don't think he gets enough credit for just how good of a musician he actually is. Solid, tight and knows his stuff. I got to see him live close up one time and he really is "motoring". Not only that he does it with seemingly no effort at all. I guess it just isn't as noticeable because of the high gain and getting buried under distorted guitars. Hawkwind definitely highlights his playing a lot more. Although I never listened to much Motorhead when I was young and playing bass my style was definitely more like his than the other methods I mentioned. I can KIND of play those other ways for short periods but it inevitable falls apart or sounds like crud so I just end up whipping out the pick. Guess that comes from being mainly a guitar player.
 
I just remembered another chord trick (not exactly a chord but utilizing a chord for a rhythmic effect) I used to employ quite often. Very simple but effective. I'd just set up an octave interval, let's say C at the third fret on the A string and fifth fret on the G string. I'd hit the lower note when the kick drum hit and the upper one for the snare shots. Sounds cool for punk/straight metal beats and it's super easy. Cheers.
2013/06/09 09:31:18
Guitarhacker
I saw a bass player at a church I was attending a few years back play a "special" based on the song... Jesus Loves Me.... that was absolutely amazing. Jazz and chords, mostly higher up the neck....
2013/06/10 13:33:45
Danny Danzi
Hi Trimph,
 
This is a great question you asked and you received some valuable feedback already. Pay no attention to anyone that tells you NOT to do something on an instrument and experiment on your own bro. Bassists have been chording for years. Two examples of this (in brief) would be:
 
1. A single guitar player band: When you have one guitar player, as soon as he goes into a guitar solo, that rhythm drops out. It sure is helpful when you have a bassist that can keep things moving as well as trying to recover some of what the song has lost once that guitar breaks into a solo. You never quite recover it all, but it sure helps when you have a bassist that knows how to cover in a single guitar band.
 
2. Thicker instrumentation presence: In certain sections, the bass switching to chords can really thicken up and orchestrate a piece a bit more. Have you ever heard someone say "man, for 3 guys, they sure do make a lot of noise!"? This means all the dudes in the band are creating a full sound for just having 3 guys. And to do that, it really does help when a bassist has the mentality to be a team player and do what is needed in a section. Michael Anthony from Van Halen is an excellent example of a bassist that has this ability. He's no fantastic bassist, but he's brilliant for a 3-piece rhythm section and the right man for the job in any band he gets in. Now keep in mind, it helps when you have players like EVH or Satch playing lead to keep your focus off of "what just dropped out" when they go into a solo, but knowing you have a bassist that can make it a lot better really does help.
 
The one thing to be careful about is the mud that's been mentioned. Low strings forming chords create a distortion as well as a dissonance that is sometimes very unpleasant as well as unwanted. One of the key reasons for this is not being in perfect tune. A bass that is a few increments out...or one that is tuned "by ear" may sound more dissonant than the bass that is tuned with a tuner. That said, as soon as you high pass that stuff a bit, the bass comes to life and actually sounds presentable. My bassist in my original band has 3 sounds he uses which are just a matter of twisting knobs on his Factor bass.
 
He has his "play with the band sound" which is a normal, solid bass tone. He has his "pop/slap" tone and then he has the tone he uses when he "chords" on passages. The differences are in the amount of high end and low end. The normal bass sound is neutral...the pop slap has less highs so it doesn't sound like it's clipping....the chord sound has less lows and a little more highs. Picture it like compensating for the normal sound using chords. You wouldn't want as much low end in the chord sound because you want it to come through....and a little more highs so the chords can be understood and audible. This way when he switches back to the normal sound, it's not this drastic change-over. It's seemless and nothing over-powers. It takes a bit of learning how to tone shape in real time, but he's been playing 35 years so he's used to it. :)
 
Anyway, have fun with this...just beware of the distortion and possible dissonance. If you're not playing live, this should all be easy for you because you can just dial in two different tones on two different tracks. Just make sure that the change in tone is not drastic from one to the other because you want it to be so smooth that no one picks up you did this. :) Good luck brother.
 
-Danny
2013/06/10 14:50:53
Dave Modisette
For me, I always use open chord voicings.  Meaning I always leave out the most unimportant note.  On a major and minor and 7th chords, that would be the 5th.  Otherwise I have a low open string as a base and then use major and minor triads usually more than an octave higher but at least a 6th higher.
2013/06/10 17:44:23
Kev999
Sometimes I fret 2 notes but only pluck one of them, letting the other one vibrate in sympathy. It's a nice subtle effect.
 
2013/06/11 09:54:10
trimph1
Great!! 
 
@Danny...I just noticed the post here...thanks for the great tips there!!
2014/02/27 14:07:13
maxcabral
I think this site can help you here
 
www.e-chords.com/bass
 
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