2012/09/15 16:37:40
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You can don't care about politics and don't talk about it but politics will take care about you and sooner or later you'll be screwed. I long run ignorance doesn't pay.
2012/09/15 16:43:49
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noldar12

     There was a time when I used to listen to talk radio, but I have long since ceased.  There is nothing I can directly do about the situations being discussed, and getting worked into a lather over that stuff was never helpful.  Life is much more peaceful, and I am more productive apart from it.

well, discussion for discussion sake develops arguing skills so it's good for you, besides sometimes having influence directly or indirectly is all the same
in the end. Both matters.
2012/09/15 16:55:25
Moshkiae
bapu


Starise



I don't know if you have ever been at that place where you know you know and you know why you know 

In the book I'm reading right now, the Nobel Prize author would say that most of the time this is the result of heuristic thinking. 


There isn't a single mystic out there that has not stated this, or shown it.
 
Pretty much a lot of my ideas were formulated, the day that I stated to my family at the Monastery of the Jeronimo in Lisbon, that there were things going around that ... were not things ... they were "energies" and they were not the reflections from the glass by the sun into the building ... and those "entities" had "life" ... but all anyone could tell me was ... "you're imagining things little boy" ... and of course, one of the things I found out real quick in the arts was? ... there were others that also "saw" these things ... and they talked about it, wrote about it and created music for it!
 
(that's the place where Vasco da Game and other digniteries are buried, btw)
 
And then one day in LA, when we went to see the Tutankhamen thing the first time, I had a really good friend that was a psychic and he was good and all that ... but we were good friends and shared music like crazy! I was the only other person he ever met that shared the love for far out and different music! We walk in and I told him ... I don't like this ... there is a high pitch wail/scream that is really annoying and I don't want to be here. And of course the place was full!
 
So 4 years later the exhibition comes back to LA, with exactly the same items!  ... and it was empty .. no one cared. And Pete and I thought ... that's weird ... and we went to check it out ... that wail/screm was gone ... and we knew right away that it was what got people's attention.
 
Now, I can say that Bapu was the reason why that was there ... and he did not get his million for it!
 
All my inner studies, and I was an avid reader from these days, starting with John Lilly, Robert Monroe, Edgar Cayce, T Lobsanga Rampa, Gurdjieff, Crowley, Dion Fortune, Carlos Castaneda, Lynn Andrews, Marlo Morgan, Marlilyn Tuneshende ... doesn't matter the name ... have always been ... attempts at studying these things better ... and if I have one deadly fault for people that don't like it, is that I assimilate the creation of music, of your poem, or you everything ... a part of this puzzle, and this confuses folks badly ... makes them have to take stock, care and attention to their inner side ...
 
The rest is easy ... it's all about the "translation" ... no kidding!
 
Stop thinking that creativity is something that someone can annoint you with! That is the social design telling you that you are not a "chosen" one!
 

 
2012/09/15 17:18:23
tom1
yes Noldar I agree.
 
I believe most of the people in this coffee house could be civil when discussing current events. There's just a handful of neanderthals who make that impossible.
 
I'm on a few political forums and I find the posters that argue and anger at the drop of a hat are extremely closed minded.
 
I don't understand this lack of an open mind. None of us have all the facts, truth, knowledge of what's really going down on this planet today, so why are we so steadfast in our opinions?
 
Differences should be welcomed and respected.
2012/09/15 17:24:09
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tom1


Differences should be welcomed and respected.

provided they are based on some rationals...
2012/09/15 18:05:12
Moshkiae
As for periods of non-creativity: they happen, and if I don't write for a period of time, that is ok; there are many other things I can keep busy and productive with.

 
I never called these "non-creativity" ... because it was always a "change" and a chance to learn something new ... I wonder if we're confusing "creativity" ... with ... doing another song that is the same as the old song?
 
When I can't write, it never is because I have no ideas ... it is because the way it wants to come down is totally different than ... what I am used to and it takes me a bit longer to get comfortable with that new process.
 
Not sure that is "crativity" or not, but I have given up trying to reduce the meanderings of the human spirit to a "creative" or non-creative something or other ... sometimes ... it just IS ... what it is!
 
Or as Frank would say ... shut up and play yer gueetar!
2012/09/15 19:32:25
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Moshkiae



As for periods of non-creativity: they happen, and if I don't write for a period of time, that is ok; there are many other things I can keep busy and productive with.

 
I never called these "non-creativity" ... because it was always a "change" and a chance to learn something new ... I wonder if we're confusing "creativity" ... with ... doing another song that is the same as the old song?
 
When I can't write, it never is because I have no ideas ... it is because the way it wants to come down is totally different than ... what I am used to and it takes me a bit longer to get comfortable with that new process.
 

well said. we often confuse creativity with productivity - totally different animals...



2012/09/15 20:26:10
Linear Phase
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2012/09/15 21:35:27
Crg
Well... it's a matter of focus. Yeah, easy word with many meanings. But, ask yourself, if you're trying to create, why go anywhere but your own skull and personal space? Some forum you go to is not going to provide you with creativity. You are going to be distracted by extranious "noise"- "input" that doesn't have anything to do with what you're trying to create. Who cares what some unknown name on a website in cyberspace says. It's a matter of focus, don't run a chain saw when you're trying to think.
2012/09/15 21:45:14
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Crg


 It's a matter of focus, don't run a chain saw when you're trying to think.

that is actually a good idea,
I knew something was disturbing my thoughts...




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