I'm having issues with automation not recording after a few seconds so I'm looking for alternative ways of capturing the wah effect I'm using within Amplitube.  I figure there has to be a method of routing the monitoring signal I'm hearing to another track for a capture.  I've only ever applied softsynths and added VSTs as an effect, no experience doing this.  It's frustrating having the control within the app I want but no way of actually recording it.
 
Since I can't post a link (yet?) to the other thread, I'll attach the screen shots for the automation issue below:
 

 

Hi,
 With SONAR you can either use a hardware I/O box that has the ability to route back internally on the hardware or you use an actual patch cable to loop out of the I/O and back in.
 
 best regards,
mike

But all that adds latency I assume?  So whatever I end up capturing will be out of sync?

The automatic latency compensation should sync it up, exactly as if you are doing an over dub or recording a fresh track.
 
The so called "outboard" or "hardware" latency compensation features are specifically for when you patch an extra digital (effects) unit of some sort into a loop. If you round trip out and stay analog (whether it's just a cable or some sort of analog effects) then it will sync up using the automatic delay compensation.
 
best regards,
mike

Fair enough. 
 
Unfortunately I don't have anything capable of doing that (just using a Presonus Audiobox USB) and was trying to avoid spending more money on the Stealthpedal just to record wah with Amplitube.  Looks like it's going to be sent back, and I'll spend the $200 on a real wah instead.  :(
 
[you can control more than just wah with the stealthpedal, which is why it's NOT a happy day sending it back]
 
I had originally thought Sonar would have a output monitor I could arm as a second track which could then be captured when recording.  After posting this thread I've spend some time looking online and it doesn't seem to be a feature [feedback issues?].  There also doesn't seem to be any way of inserting Amplitube in a different manner within Sonar to record raw.
 
Of course, if automation recording wasn't crapping out on me I'd probably be able to keep/use the stealthpedal.

You are not the first to wonder why SONAR can't do this internally.
 
Good luck.
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
 
 
 

Mike, I gave your posts a "helpful" rating.  I appreciate the help you provide the community (looks at 29,000 posts in awe).
 
I'm an active member on homerrecording.com and sos.  Forum members like you make the internet a cool place.  :)

stoopid3
Of course, if automation recording wasn't crapping out on me I'd probably be able to keep/use the stealthpedal.

Kevin, I hope you are still following this thread.
I don't have any answers, but I do have plenty of questions. Maybe, if we ask the right question, we can get this resolved.
Since you are wanting to record the output to another track, I am guessing that you are able to play your guitar through Amplitube and hear the effect of the Stealth pedal. Is that Correct?
Yet, when you attempt to record automation, communication is quickly lost. Why?
If your hardware/software is not communicating on the front end, recording the back end won't get you anywhere.
 
I don't have a Stealth pedal, so I am just throwing some ideas out here.
From what I can see, it seems that the Stealth pedal is sending MIDI CC messages, which should be interpreted by Amplitube. This should be no different from the messages from the knobs and sliders on a controller.
Does the Stealth pedal need to be recognized as a Control Surface? If so, is it?
Does Amplitube need to be configured as a synth to respond to MIDI CC?
The Audiobox and the Stealth pedal are both interfaces. Could there be a conflict there? In particular, I'm thinking ASIO mode, which allows only one active interface at a time.
I noticed there is no audio in track 1. Could that be a factor or a clue?
This could be a simple configuration/ routing problem.
With luck, these questions may spark some ideas from someone smarter than myself.
Don't scrap that pedal just yet.

RobertB

stoopid3
Of course, if automation recording wasn't crapping out on me I'd probably be able to keep/use the stealthpedal.

Kevin, I hope you are still following this thread.
I don't have any answers, but I do have plenty of questions. Maybe, if we ask the right question, we can get this resolved.
Since you are wanting to record the output to another track, I am guessing that you are able to play your guitar through Amplitube and hear the effect of the Stealth pedal. Is that Correct?
Yet, when you attempt to record automation, communication is quickly lost. Why?
If your hardware/software is not communicating on the front end, recording the back end won't get you anywhere.
 
I don't have a Stealth pedal, so I am just throwing some ideas out here.
From what I can see, it seems that the Stealth pedal is sending MIDI CC messages, which should be interpreted by Amplitube. This should be no different from the messages from the knobs and sliders on a controller.
Does the Stealth pedal need to be recognized as a Control Surface? If so, is it?
Does Amplitube need to be configured as a synth to respond to MIDI CC?
The Audiobox and the Stealth pedal are both interfaces. Could there be a conflict there? In particular, I'm thinking ASIO mode, which allows only one active interface at a time.
I noticed there is no audio in track 1. Could that be a factor or a clue?
This could be a simple configuration/ routing problem.
With luck, these questions may spark some ideas from someone smarter than myself.
Don't scrap that pedal just yet.

Hi Robert,
 
There's no audio because I wasn't strumming the guitar (I could hear the usual line noise though, and of course I stopped strumming after trying this a thousand times only to have it fail, so strumming seemed like wasted calories :p ).
 
The Stealthpedal can be an interface, but none of that functionality works since my primary ASIO driver and audio interface is the Audiobox.  Both IK Multimedia devices (Stealthpedal audio and midi) appear in windows device manager as they are supposed to, and are enabled/"working".  Since by all accounts the Stealthpedal is controlling Amplitube, and all other functions (other than this automation issue) work fine, it would seem that there isn't a driver issue occurring (?).  IK Multimedia's tech support thinks its Sonar, since Amplitube and the Stealthpedal appear to still be functioning and doing what they're supposed to do.  If this were a driver issue I would think there wouldn't even be those few seconds of automation signal, and I would see communications issues elsewhere in using the pedal. (?)
 
Nothing stops happening when recording, the wah continues working, I hear sound, and amplitube chugs along fine.  The automation simply stops being captured as shown in the screenshot.
 
My goal with all this is for home recording, so not having the wah /pedal effects captured when tracking completely defeats the purpose of having it.  Worse case scenerio - I've looked into maybe drawing the automation by hand and assigning the automation track to the appropriate Amplitube effect.  Although this is not ideal, I still have the option to return the Stealthpedal.  I'm a guitarist and have experience using wah, so not having my years of skill with pedals utilized when recording is a bummer but not the end of my recording career.  I could just spend the $200 on a decent wah/volume pedal and draw automation for any other effects I may want to control in Amplitube.
 
Sadly if this is a Cakewalk issue there doesn't seem to be a lot of documented examples of this happening, or at least not much I can find on the web.  Thus far I have not heard from Cakewalk's tech support since submiting my ticket sometime on Sunday.  It's a shame that a basic function like this would be failing, as there are literally no other ways around this!
 
Thanks for taking some time to wrap your brain around it.

"If this were a driver issue I would think there wouldn't even be those few seconds of automation signal, and I would see communications issues elsewhere in using the pedal. (?)"
 
I totally agree with you there, and that is what seems really odd. If it were a driver issue, it would most likely be a go/no go situation.
Which version of Sonar are you using? That screen shot looks to be a legacy version.
I've PM'ed IK obi and hopefully he will be checking in on this.
This one's got me scratching my head.
That Stealth pedal looks like a pretty slick unit if you can get it working with Sonar.