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2014/02/03 08:31:27
The Maillard Reaction
 
https://soundcloud.com/johnnyrandom
 
Refreshing, artistic, masterful.
 
 
best regards,
mike
 
2014/02/03 17:01:43
Jeff Evans
Love it Mike thanks a lot! Yes real sampling and sampling real things. It does not mean he has a hardware sampler though although it sounds likely. I still have two great hardware samplers the EMU Emulator (E5000) and my rack mounted Kurzweil has the sampling option fitted.
 
It sort of makes you want to get out and sample things when you have one of these. I have got a nice bike too so it could prove interesting. My wife being a violinst has plenty of bows around. Bows are interesting once you start bowing things the strangest of sounds come out usually. A friend of ours gave us this lovely metal sculpture and when you bow it the most amazing sound results. Very complex sound. It would take a month of Sundays to even come close with synthesisers.
 
 
2014/02/03 23:30:52
sharke
He's got a short video about his bicycle work on Vimeo: 
 
https://vimeo.com/83958475
2014/02/04 06:49:37
Jeff Evans
Here is something to think about. All the sounds he made with the bike can be made with synthesisers so that just leaves the music. At the end of the day when you are listening to the music it is actually unimportant how the sounds were made.
 
So the music, well it is nothing that exciting at all, ordinary in fact. He is not breaking any new ground musically so one could say it is actually not wildly refreshing at all but could be considerd to be rather average. It is only the novelty of using the bike to make the sounds that makes it interesting and that part is. if you remove that then it is not so exciting and interesting.
 
Sorry to be a party pooper but it does throw a different light on it.
 
What would be much more interesting for me is making and sampling sounds that synthesisers would find difficult to do and then creating an incredible piece of music with those sounds that is entering into new territory. Music that we have not heard before.
 
But thanks for the link Mike and the video too. What it does do is remind one of the possibilites of using found things around in everyday life that can be transformed into something special, unreal and musically exciting. That is the challenge.
2014/02/04 07:36:51
The Maillard Reaction
There was a short period when this piece of music was breaking new ground:
 

 
Some say it was intended to make fools of people that mistake the notion of refreshment with novelty. Others think it was composed by a fool. Some count it as a masterful and wickedly sublime statement critical of aestheticians who rely on the hope that something beyond their horizon will fill a void in their soul. To others it is representative of the idea that the destination may not be as fulfilling as the journey. 
 
Certainly, it is for each and every person who encounters it, an opportunity to imbue their reaction with the ideas and prejudices they harbor.
 
What ever it is, it was once, not to long ago, novel and esteemed as "new". Now it's just a YouTube cover song video. 
 
 
 
The "re" in refreshing refers to an idea. It is a Latin prefix. The idea that new is compulsory has nothing to do with the idea expressed by "re" when it is combined with the root "fresh". Your stated opinion seems wildly ironic as you are demonstrating that you have decided to accord a new and novel definition to an ancient word, "refresh", and the idea it represents. 
 
BTW, people can do 4:33 on a synthesizer but it never gets the same enthusiastic applause.
 
:-S
 
 
 
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2014/02/04 08:25:50
Jeff Evans
An attempt to refresh something may produce something new but then again it may not succeed in doing so and what was being refreshed may also be the same as it was before.
2014/02/04 12:40:21
sharke
Jeff Evans
Here is something to think about. All the sounds he made with the bike can be made with synthesisers so that just leaves the music. At the end of the day when you are listening to the music it is actually unimportant how the sounds were made.
 
So the music, well it is nothing that exciting at all, ordinary in fact. He is not breaking any new ground musically so one could say it is actually not wildly refreshing at all but could be considerd to be rather average. It is only the novelty of using the bike to make the sounds that makes it interesting and that part is. if you remove that then it is not so exciting and interesting.
 
Sorry to be a party pooper but it does throw a different light on it.
 
What would be much more interesting for me is making and sampling sounds that synthesisers would find difficult to do and then creating an incredible piece of music with those sounds that is entering into new territory. Music that we have not heard before.
 
But thanks for the link Mike and the video too. What it does do is remind one of the possibilites of using found things around in everyday life that can be transformed into something special, unreal and musically exciting. That is the challenge.


I agree with you about the music - it's pleasant enough but nothing special. Unobtrusive background music for a documentary short, perhaps.
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