2012/09/03 11:26:24
craigb
Looks like a Teac actually...
2012/09/03 16:44:31
jbow
I have one of these... 
Original AR




One of these...
Kenwood KD-12RB




and one of these...
Kenwood KP-3201






I think the AR is the best but I use the KD-12 a lot. It is according to what you want to spend but you really cannot go wrong with a good turntable from the '70s Stereo Wars era. Look around at http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php 

J


2012/09/03 17:02:53
jbow
2012/09/03 17:09:16
jbow
2012/09/04 17:45:07
Moshkiae
craigb

I would think the ONLY reason that LP sales are gaining on CD's is the fact that many people (including myself) can now download the CD and not have to store the thing after I've sucked it into my computer.
I have been getting rid of the LP's because they are too heavy and I do not own a house, or have a nice place where I can take care of them.
 
There are some albums that you never want to let go ... like the original Space Ritual by Hawkwinid, the original Be Good to Yourself at Least Once a Day by Man, or a couple of the Brian Eno albums because they had original art with them, or that one Faust album and such, or the absolutely and massively well done art work on all the early albums by Amon Duul, up until Vive La Trance ... but sadly the "Album Cover" think is a thing of the past and not even considered ART anymore .. how many CD covers can you LIST these days ... specially if you compare them to the Album Covers? ... right ... I can list a couple from Djam Karet and that's about it!
 
I have no family, no love, and I have written so much about so much music, that so many folks don't give a merde about ... that while I have never in my life second guessed or questioned the music ... just like I would not question your own music ... even if I think/feel that it could have used this or that and a vacuum cleaner on this part here ... but the only two places that I have ever written about these things, are NOT appreciative of the things said ... which should be considered "literary criticism", or "artistic criticism" and instead, just like some folks here, it gets taken as "personal criticism" ... and after a while ... you know what?  None of this music will ever be remembered ... why? ... too many people can not appreciate the talks about it ... all most folks can remember is ... "the hit" ... and no one knows, or cares, or gives a damn ... as to how many "hits" have been lost and forgotten in the last 1000 years since music started being "written" on a pice of paper.  So no one asks, what did this mean Pedro ... they immediately say ... Pedro is a jerk and Karyn will never even say Hi! And Bapu will always try to kill the thread!
 
But I can't help it ... I love the music so much ... and I want it to live ... forever ... but no one here can see that ... no words I can use ... will ever ... clarify that for so many here ... and it hurts inside ... it really does ... because I have seen and heard, and loved, many of them, and met many of them, that didn't make it ... and they are all sad, broken hearted, even though they tried ... and a little bit more of zen philosophy is more Bapu here than anything else!
 
In the end, this is just like a film that made me cry ... towards the end of the film "Mahler" bu Ken Russell, his wife leaves him ... and he says quietly .. I wrote the Symphony for her!
 
The only thing left? ... forgive them for they know not what they do?
 
Like writing the Symphony is meaningless? You don't think I know that about ALL of you folks here? The records are no different! Just remember that!
 

 
2012/09/04 17:52:56
jbow
I have been getting rid of the LP's because they are too heavy and I do not own a house, or have a nice place where I can take care of them.



I have a collection of LPS. I'm sure others here still buy them too. If you are of a mind to you could make a list of the LPs you want to sell, of course... not as a for sale ad but maybe just a list of LPs you have. I am not looking to get a cheap deal, just thinking why not sell them here instead of to strangers or a store.
We could PM you if we are interested in any and go from there... then again, you may not want to do that. Just a thought.

Julien

2012/09/04 18:10:21
Moshkiae
jbow ...I think the AR is the best but I use the KD-12 a lot. It is according to what you want to spend but you really cannot go wrong with a good turntable from the '70s Stereo Wars era. Look around at http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php
...

 
Actually Stanton is not bad and the controls are good, but I am not sure that they would be considered ... "top of the line" ... but then neither were Kenwood or Pioneer in those days ... Bang and Olafson and a couple of others were much more expensive, but not necessarily better ... in fact the Pioneer PL120 rated better than 3 B&O turntables once on one of those magazines I will not mention.
 
In the end, the Stylus ... is the biggest difference, with one thing to remember ... if you have a metalic stylus on an area that has salt in the air, near the ocean, it will not last ... the salt in the air will eat at the stylus in time. Darn'd things like that can drive you nuts, because you never heard of it before!
 
The Stanton Cartridge I got, was the stylus being used in 3 of those B&O turntables, which was the reason why I decided to spring for it ... and it WAS WORTH EVERY PENNY ... specially when you factor in about 28 years of life ... making Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream and many others ... sound ... there are no words for it, my friend!
 
2012/09/04 19:00:08
craigb
Moshkiae

 ... but sadly the "Album Cover" think is a thing of the past and not even considered ART anymore .. how many CD covers can you LIST these days ... specially if you compare them to the Album Covers? 
 
Hi,
 
All I can say is HA!
 
There are still LOTS of album covers with creative art if you know where to look (and you like electronica genres) plus you can even download the music for free, legally).  Check them out HERE!
 
Some are really cool (and, naturally, some are just dumb as usual).

2012/09/04 19:07:37
Zenwit
Space Cowboy
 
Buy whatever VPI rig fits your budget.  They really have their act together as a firm: they're going to be around for a long time to support their gear.  Really important consideration when you own a belt drive turntable.  That slick looking turntable is a VPI HRX.
 
Oh, they sound really good also.
 
Cartridge?  Dynavector or Ortofon.  Both of these companies will probably open an assembly lab on Mars one day.  Again, long term support.  And a vast range of cost / performance to pick from.
 
Cheers 
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