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2013/04/03 11:08:42
The Maillard Reaction


I have been to Iguana Mia a few times. :-)

I used to spend a lot of time in Cape Coral and Pine Island in the early 1980s... back when it was still cowboys and boats. I always enjoy reminiscing when I work or visit down there.

:-)

best regards,
mike
2013/04/03 11:43:47
jcschild
man small world. i got sober in 1988 and lived on Pine isl for a few yrs before so guess i was there from 85 to late 95, live in Ft Myers/ft myers bch for about 5ish yrs prior. moved to FL from NY in 79 i think. (born in FL as well)  dang i am old.
Pine Isl was either fisherman or retired people with very few young families. very odd place and only like 15% developed back then
i remember the fisherman would ignore the no shoes no shirt no service signs.

oh well i am stuck in Northern KY now.. and no point to a boat.
Wife will not move away from family and of course i have a really large boulder holding me here as well (ADK)
guesss the bch will be confined to vacations
2013/04/03 12:45:04
Stipes Vigilo
jcschild

yeah ignore the clown who thinks he knows about computers
 


I am ignoring the clown.
I have never claimed to be an expert and join these forums for rational feedback
from others I assume might know more or at least something I don't.
But there is always one person that believes they are the absolute authority and no one else knows anything.
They often speak vaguely and about everything but the subject.
Beware of the man who thinks he knows more about computers than everyone else.

Every computer I've built and repaired has worked well for years.
And all the talk here is about food and no need for anonymity.
Maybe these people ought to go join a food forum instead?

Sorry my system makes everyone so uncomfortable.
2013/04/03 22:59:46
tomixornot

--excerp
> That implies one would know my entire use for it. 
> I've only given what is relative to this posit. 
--excerp
> Current CPU usage runs between 7-20% ; RAM runs about 7%

Look like your system is fine at it's current state for audio production with plenty of headroom. If the system is only for audio, I'll suggest no further upgrade.

So any upgrade for your none audio requirement will only be better.

--excerp
> Still, no one has offered any information on the correlation of dual chips.

Many of us here simply do not run dual chips.
2013/04/04 08:00:39
The Maillard Reaction


I spent the evening reading comparisons of the i7 3930k 6 core to the i7 3770k 4 core.

At first I thought 6 cores would be the way to go for me, but now that I realize how much more energy efficient the 3770k is the slight reduction in computational power seems less important.

Especially when I realize that I'd only use all 6 cores on some occasions.

Still trying to decide.

I anticipate a lot more convolution processes sneaking into our bread and butter dsp and so I'd like to future proof my next DAW purchase to some extent.

:-)

all the best,
mike
 
2013/04/04 08:15:50
tomixornot

@mike

I've come across this and should be a handy tool for CPU comparison.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

It doesn't have all the models such as i7 2700.. but is quite comprehensive, including the two CPUs you mentioned.
2013/04/04 08:37:34
The Maillard Reaction


Thanks!
2013/04/04 10:23:32
jcschild
tomixornot


@mike

I've come across this and should be a handy tool for CPU comparison.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

It doesn't have all the models such as i7 2700.. but is quite comprehensive, including the two CPUs you mentioned.

and that benchmark would be completely wrong for audio/video
 
the 3820 outpreforms the 3770k (50%)
the 3930k vastly outperforms 3770k (85%)
 
at over clocked (both @ 4.5GHz) the 3930k outperforms by 50%
 
the 2011 series will offer lower latency and higher effects count by far. price difference $300 motherboard is about $50 more as well..
 
with that said the 3770k is plenty of power for many other than composers or large track count/heavy effects that still want low latency
 
http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm
 
2013/04/04 12:00:29
The Maillard Reaction
Thanks Scott, 
 I had wondered what happens at the 4.5 speed and in the audio application.

best regards,
mike

2013/04/04 23:19:47
Stipes Vigilo
tomixornot

Look like your system is fine at it's current state for audio production with plenty of headroom. If the system is only for audio, I'll suggest no further upgrade.

Many of us here simply do not run dual chips.

Thanks, it runs nice now, closer to my original projections (actually exceeding them). I really don't see any need right now for any further upgrades but that might change as I learn more about the optimization of process and cores by certain software and if that or some other thing will help with the switching between two.

I'm on another forum where people do use the dual chips and they rave about them. And they're using the older slower XEONs they bought used on a dump.

Make no mistake, I think the i5s & i7s are great chips, powerful enough for my current needs, but I don't know how long current will stay current.

Still, I would really like to see some DAW bench comparison charts with all the chips running normal and not overclocked to the limit.

Edit/add: there is this source also:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
(Although not by DAW)
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