I'm in the process of reworking my recording rig so I can accommodate multiple musicians. I purchased a new interface with multiple inputs (Tascam US1800) and a Behringer HA4700 headphone amp. Along with a furman power conditioner, rack tuner and a brand new rack unit witch is being shipped so i cant hook anything up until i get the rack, Anyways....... I'm a little confused on the right way to connect the headphone amp out of my interface.

 The dude at guitar ctr. Says to run a stereo trs cable from the headphone input on the interface to the headphone input on the headphone amp. The amp has 4 headphone channels. Using this hookup method.....how could I possibly boost the vocals or a certain guitar separately in the phones?

Also, in X2, can I make a separate headphone mix? I'm not sure how to achieve that if possible. 

Thanks for your time, Ken

The dude at guitar ctr. Says to run a stereo trs cable from the headphone input on the interface to the headphone input on the headphone amp. The amp has 4 headphone channels. Using this hookup method.....how could I possibly boost the vocals or a certain guitar separately in the phones?

simple:  you can't.  the only way to give individual mixes using hardware is to have a system that is capable of that.  one way would be to have a mixer with monitor outputs.  however, you'd also need a separate headphone amp channel for each person since the output of the mixer would be line level.  the HA-4700 would not do that for you.


other systems could include things like the Aviom or similar systems.  but those are typically very expensive (Aviom is something like $500 per monitor).

Also, in X2, can I make a separate headphone mix? I'm not sure how to achieve that if possible.  

yes, as long as your soundcard is capable of multiple outputs.  your signature says you have a toneport UX-1, I doubt you have more than 2 outputs on that, but the tascam 1800 does, albeit not many.  it has 4 outputs available.  you can set up a bus for each of the 4 outputs (assuming the tascam drivers allow for mono output, if the tascam drivers only allow for 2 stereo outputs, then you can only set this up for 2 people).


once you set up the buses for the 4 (or 2) outputs, then you can use sends to the buses to create mixes for each individual output, using the send volume to, for example, increase the vocals on the vocal output bus, or increase the guitar for the guitarist, etc.


but then you'd still need individual headphone amps for each mix for each of the 4 people.  the HA-4700 only has 1 input available.  you'd need 4 of those to do this job.  or you'd need individual headphone amps or a headphone amp with 4 inputs (not likely except in the systems mentioned above like Aviom).

Ken, I wish you'd posed the question before buying your new interface. The best you're going to be able to do with the Tascam is a single headphone mix for everybody. The Behringer unlt will let each person set their own headphone volume, but that's all. They won't each be able to have their own cue mixes.

If the Tascam lets you specify where its own headphone signal comes from (e.g. it's not just automatically connected to the main outs) that could give you a second monitor mix.


What you really need is an interface with 6 or 10 outputs and either a headphone distribution amplifier (or mixer) with 4 separate inputs, or 4 separate headphone amplifiers. This would allow you to set up 4 busses within SONAR, as Beagle suggested, each of which could be customized for each player. A 6-out interface would support 4 mono mixes, while a 10-out interface would give you 8 mono or 4 stereo mixes.

I should add that in practice having everybody hear the same headphone mix isn't the end of the world. As long as each person can control their own volume, it's still a usable setup even if not ideal.

It all comes down to the all mighty dollar as you all know. I will work like a poor man until I work my way out of the situation I got myself into.  I will just have to settle for a single mix for all of my headphones. I guess things could be worse. I'm sure over time I will move on to the next step if I need to. I just need to figue how to hook this crap! Lol

I hear ya on that, keneds. Making do with what you've got can actually be a fun challenge that spurs creativity.

I doubt the Beatles had individual cue mixes in their headphones, yet somehow they managed to crank out a decent tune or two.

Okay, so i understand about sending buses to outputs to the headphone amp. How do I connect my interface to the headphone amp. The headphone amp has a single input but i want to send 2 outputs to it to make it a stereo. Can I hook up the 2 outputs to the 1 input using like a splitter? Like a Y connecter with 2 TRS on one end and 1 TRS on the other? Is that safe or would it be bad because i am sending 2 line levels into 1?

The headphone amp has a single stereo input. You need a stereo Y connector with a TRS (stereo) on one end and two TS (mono) connections on the other for the US-1800.
 
The output levels should match. If it's too soft or distorts, then they don't (-10dB and +4dB are the two standards). Nothing is bad. With the correct cable, you are sending 2 into 2.

Thanks for helping out man!
The back of the interface is a line out. So would it make a difference if I used a 2 TRS instead of a 2 TS?

There are plenty of solution and a lot of them don't have to break the bank. I have the us1641 which is more or less identical. 
The thing to get your head around is your most likely recordning a band live. So this will require each musician to hear themselves as you record to the multi tracks. 
You don't want this to be after the fact as there will be latency. Forget about needing extra outputs because it won't work for live,, that's only needed when overdubbing, and most we only overdub one part at a time.
 
 What you need is a analog monitoring system that is in front of the interface. 
 
Ultimatly you have a mixing board that can handle all this and split the signal to both the monitoring ( headphones)  and the recording ( interface).  I get buy with what we have on hand which is a hodge podge of  Medium and small mixers. 
 You will be either recording in a studio type setting or recording your band live. Recording the band live is different and there will be leakage. I will talk about recording in a studio type setting here. 
 
Mostly  you want a good drum take, everything else can be overdubbed later on  one part at a time or just a few punch ins. So the drummer needs to hear the guitars,singers and bass to play nicely. The good thing is you won't need the drums in the headphones unless you lock the bugger in a soundproof room. So patch the whole band to the mixer and send that to your headphone amp. You won't need the drums in that mix. 
I then mike up the drums and they either go via a different mixer for processing or direct to the interface usually both. 
The vocals and guitar are sent via Aux sends (or direct outs if you have them) from the mixer to the interface. The Bass is split from a DI and they also have thier own small headphone mixer. 
The guitar is a DI output with the speaker off ( Blackstar Amp) or could be locked in a iso booth or box. Lots of options but it has to be quiet in the drum room.
There are lots of ways to rig up  a good headphone mix but it involves mixing boards not interfaces. These are also super handy I use mine live too.

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