Ah, whatever any computer place tells you probably is bull if they download the updates from the Internet anyway. I had Windows 2000 on a computer and before I could download the critical updates I got numerous messages about how my computer was not secure. The only way that I know nothing would be on a computer is if they had a DVD at home of the critical updates updated enough not to cause something to happen before downloading the next new updates. Did that interfere with the running of the computer (with Win2K)? No, not actually, but it was highly annoying. I had a list I never did clear out that I transferred to a new computer that I never made it through to clean it out and then Windows XP came along anyway. Of course perhaps that was just messages from Microsoft's Servers anyway, but a short time after that, Microsoft and their Servers became more secure and did not have that crap coming through anymore. Perhaps that has changed, but when the OS company can't even keep their Servers clean, you start wondering why you are using Windows to begin with. But that is all in the Past, and hopefully that has changed, but with other Servers on the Internet, some are not kept up to date with that kind of virus stopping critical updates. Like a mine-field and moving through it, I guess. Of course I was being a little critical with the first sentence of this post because that is the way that it was. And at the time also you were not suppose to be running a anti-virus program anyway to download the critical updates to begin with, that program may interfere with installing the critical updates. Well, back to something more positive to talk about.