sharke
 

drewfx1

sharke
Now you'd think forum software as expensive as this would be intelligent enough to count "unique" views instead of just every time the frigging page gets loaded. What a crock.

So you think it's worth using processing power doing compares on every thread hit in order to solve this "problem"? 

Well otherwise, what exactly is the point of a view counter? It's not as if counting unique views is out of the ordinary. Look at Google Analytics, for example. It captures a ridiculous amount of data about the browsing behavior of people on your site, and unique views are an integral part of it. 
 

 
GA isn't running on the host site though (apart from some embedded tags) - AFAIK it's running in the user's browser (for people not smart enough to block it) and on GA's own sites.
 
Also there's a big difference between mining logs offline for, say, unique hits for advertisers vs. real time updates like the view count. And if you write the code to run in the user's browser and their browser doesn't execute the code successfully for whatever reason, then your count is wrong too.
 

 
Without it, the counter is pointless. What if I'm looking at a thread, and then I refresh the page to see if there have been any updates? Should that count as another "view"? 

You updated the thread and I viewed it again - does that count as another view or not? If not, keep in mind that then you can have more replies to a thread than views. Does that make sense? Otherwise you have to check repeated views against any updates too for every time the thread is accessed by anyone. And if one of us refreshes it repeatedly because we are really that interested in the thread, then why shouldn't that count?
 
It's just a counter and it counts what it counts. The only real problem I can see is if there are trolls abusing it just to annoy someone or others who manage to constantly reload pages enough to have a meaningful (whatever that means) effect on the results. Is this really a common problem?
 
It's just a counter and it counts what it counts.

SteveStrummerUK
 
I'm still a little in the dark here.
 
In fact, one might expect me to utter, "I don't get it" and add the "" confuzzled emotimacon.
 
But if George has it right and it's all about the repeated hitting of the F5 refresh thang, wouldn't that be anonymous?
 
Does one actually leave an tell-tale internet/cyber* calling card when one refreshes a page?
 
Enquiring minds and all that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* I use these words as I ain't got a feckin' clue what I'm rambling on about 
 
 
 

Every time you hit a web server, potentially every single element in the page gets logged with your IP address.
 
Sometimes unscrupulous types will send an email with an embedded picture link with a unique name (i.e. straummy's_email.jpg). Then if you view the email, and if your email client is set to display pictures in HTML mode, they then know from their logs that you read the email, when you read it and your IP address.

So there's hackers here? Hmm, who'd of thought.

bapu

craigb

jamesg1213
Perhaps it got onto a Sticky Wicket   

Now THAT changes everything!
 
(How did you get that picture of Steve on the cricket field???  Nevermind, I just realized I don't really want to know!)

You just think it's Steve.
 
It's Daryk.

Well, all those British arses all look alike, ya?

SteveStrummerUK
 
I'm still a little in the dark here.
 
In fact, one might expect me to utter, "I don't get it" and add the "" confuzzled emotimacon.
 
But if George has it right and it's all about the repeated hitting of the F5 refresh thang, wouldn't that be anonymous?
 
Does one actually leave an tell-tale internet/cyber* calling card when one refreshes a page?
 
Enquiring minds and all that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* I use these words as I ain't got a feckin' clue what I'm rambling on about 
 
 
 

Actually, excessive refreshes could cause a potential denial of services alert to be created.  A real denial of service attack is meant to overwhelm a server with too many requests which causes it to crash.
 
Personally, I would like this so-called "intelligent" forum software to return to correctly processing things like "go to last read post" and jumping down to the quick reply area when we hit a quote button (among other things)...

bapu

drewfx1

Ham N Egz
I ran an experiment
I opened this thread up in a broswer
I hit the F5 key three times
 
the views incremented 3 times
 
so why the blazes wood anybody want to do that or have the time
 
 
dumb
 
 
 
 

Not endorsing it, but if one sorted a forum by views it's a way of bumping one's own thread.

The FSF has bumps all over it.
 
A visit to the Doc may be in order.

You may want to seek out a phrenologist to read those bumps.

This is Baps house.

quantumeffect

bapu

drewfx1

Ham N Egz
I ran an experiment
I opened this thread up in a broswer
I hit the F5 key three times
 
the views incremented 3 times
 
so why the blazes wood anybody want to do that or have the time
 
 
dumb
 
 
 
 

Not endorsing it, but if one sorted a forum by views it's a way of bumping one's own thread.

The FSF has bumps all over it.
 
A visit to the Doc may be in order.

You may want to seek out a phrenologist to read those bumps.

I'm pretty sure even a phrenologist wouldn't want to touch those things.

bapu
Maybe Dave just needed to post it to appease said "upset member". When he didn't get the accused to step forward and say "I did it and I'm sorry, but I was young and stupid" or "I never incremented thread view count without permission of the thread owner", he was compelled to delete it.

Maybe he got upset because too many people were looking at it ?
 
Apparently that's a thing now.

paulo

bapu
Maybe Dave just needed to post it to appease said "upset member". When he didn't get the accused to step forward and say "I did it and I'm sorry, but I was young and stupid" or "I never incremented thread view count without permission of the thread owner", he was compelled to delete it.

Maybe he got upset because too many people were looking at it ?
 
Apparently that's a thing now.

It's so hard to keep with what the kidz are into these days, ya?