2013/07/30 15:48:42
chasmcg
My latest song, after mixing and mastering, has spots where my spit (saliva) is noticeable, at least to me. Without the compression it sounds fine. Anyone ever run into this and have any EQ suggestions that I might try without doing the vocal parts over. Thanks. 
2013/07/30 19:03:53
The Band19
Just slope the beginning and ending of the phrases so it's less noticeable, also a deesser may help. Other than that, there's mic technique, distance, pop filter.
2013/07/31 07:33:24
ChuckC
I like to add a little 8K to my spit.  It helps it have more body.
2013/07/31 08:09:30
Guitarhacker
just wipe it off......
 
No one wants a dry mouth when trying to sing..... but there does need to be a balance.... maybe swallow a bit more often...
 
also, if that doesn't work... use auto punch to fix the spots....
 
EQ to taste, but try not to use EQ to fix it. Better to record it correctly the first time.....
2013/07/31 23:30:41
michaelhanson
I had a vocal that got a little breathy once and used Robbie's technique with good success. Trim the wave form close to the spot that you want to cut back on and then do a fast slope curve.
2013/08/01 05:24:45
Kalle Rantaaho
Saliva sounds are surely more difficult to remove than sibilants, because they are connected to any type of phones, not only s's and similar. I find it annoying  in speech on many radio stations. Especially female voices get often intolerably "wet" and squelchy due to the automatic compression used.
 
I think you can reduce it by working on the way you articulate. Not moving ones jaws enough when speaking/singing increases the sounds.
 
 
2013/08/01 20:04:33
chasmcg
Thanks for the replies, guys. Will see what I can do with the slope.
 
Here's the song I'm referring to. Posted it a few weeks back in the song forum. Didn't mention it when I posted it and no one said anything about it but I notice it a lot. But as they say, my own worst critic. Any critiques on the spit is appreciated.
 
http://soundcloud.com/sparkplugjohnny/class-of-63-50-years
 
 
2013/08/01 22:27:44
Jeff Evans
Chas firstly I must say I love this. Man this groove has got some serious attitude. I Love it! A lot of grooves can be whimpy, there is nothing whimpy about this man!
 
OK this is defintely a case of you being the only one I think that can hear and is agonising over it! If you had not mentioned anything about the problem I doubt I or most would have ever heard it. Don't sweat it! See you are very close to it, too close now. For someone that has just heard this for the first time it was like, Whoa I love it!
 
If I were to edit this and attempt to clean it up this is primo case for the editing software now. Open up the whole vocal track. I would start with what Band19 was saying. Any spit noise on its own I would silence. In other cases if it were to be present at the same time as your vocals I would microscopically select those areas and apply a LPF from about 5K or so. That would silence the effected areas but you would have to be careful with this too because if it happened at the same time as an 'S' or a 'T' I would be inclined to leave it because those things would in the end be more important. But as I said above it is pretty hard to hear.
 
Man the song is just so good and the delivery so epic it just overshadows it by a mile!
2013/08/02 00:45:37
The Band19
I just finished "re-recording" 4 vocal tracks... For my good friend Mr. No999. It took several days.
 
Vocals are "tricky?" 
 
And compressing them, EQing them, making them sit in the mix? It's all tricky. However, a song with vocals? The vocals 1) must be heard, 2) must be legible? (however they are clearly not always) and 3) "See 1)" It's tricky to make them sit right in the mix. If it's done correctly, you don't notice it. If it's done "incorrectly?" you notice it every time...
 
IMNSHO, a song with vocals tells a story? And at the end of the song, you should  be able to ask someone who just heard it for the 1st time, OK, 1) What is the name of the song? (it's in the hook), 2) What is the song about? i.e., what is it saying? And if it is well written, well performed, well recorded, and well mixed? Then they should be able to answer those questions with no problems. 
 
A song w/vocals is fine with Lead instruments? However, the vocals should take "center stage..." They are conveying the meaning and the message of the song. As a lyricist, and a singer, I have STRONG opinions on this subject.
2013/08/02 00:46:19
The Band19
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