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  • Session Drummer 3 - How to actually RECORD?
2013/04/12 13:13:01
Daylaa
Every tutorial I have watched/read tells me perfectly how to route each drum to its own track - this I can do.

But how do you actually get it to RECORD to each track?? When I hit record and play drums on my controller, all that records is the 'source track' and not the individual tracks I set up.

Why don't the tutorials tell me this?? It must be something so simple and yet I can't work it out.

Anyone?
2013/04/12 13:44:09
Kalle Rantaaho
All the MIDI is recorded  on one track as default. It's the audio outputs that are separate tracks. It would be tricky to edit a MIDI drum fill is every hit is on separate track. There are ways to split every MIDI note to separate tracks, though, but I've never tried 'cause can't see any reason to do so.

Then you can put audio FX on the individual kitpieces on the audio output tracks, or send them to a bus or whatever, and, if necessary, then freeze/bounce everything to audio.

Or did I misunderstand your question?
2013/04/12 13:53:25
Daylaa
Good point about the 'editing a drum fill' bit. That helps my understanding. 
So why doesn't it print audio into the individual tracks?

So, say I've recorded a MIDI drum part onto the source track...how do I then get printed audio of each drum part onto each individual track?

I don't understand the point of separating each track if I can't do that??

Cheers
Dave


2013/04/12 13:59:18
Daylaa
Good point about the 'editing a drum fill' bit. That helps my understanding. 
So why doesn't it print audio into the individual tracks?

So, say I've recorded a MIDI drum part onto the source track...how do I then get printed audio of each drum part onto each individual track?

I don't understand the point of separating each track if I can't do that??

Cheers
Dave


2013/04/12 14:00:11
bitflipper
The quickest and easiest way to do that is to freeze the synth. This will record audio onto however many audio tracks you've specified within the synth. Once frozen, you can treat the audio like any other audio track. I'd advise you to un-check the "FX" freeze option so that you can add or alter effects after the freeze.
2013/04/12 14:35:53
Daylaa
Thanks guys,

Bitflipper - that's exactly what I needed, cheers.


2013/04/12 15:45:01
chuckebaby
watch these three tuts, they will walk you through almost everything there is to know about session drummer 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruAnAPR6-hQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZS61Wg-XY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k83UVo1OiKA

I made these 3 videos for the same reasons your asking questions.

remember you cant just take a mouse and whack on pads expecting them to record, that's not how it works.
 
the second video will show you how to set up your routing options/as well the third one explains some basic midi.
2013/07/14 00:15:49
dwasmanjr
I have Sonar X1 Producer and when I load soft synth Session Drummer it loads Session Drummer 1.  How do I get Session Drummer 3 to load - if it even matters? 
 
Now this is the rub.  I loaded a wave file on track 1 of a new song.  I inserted Session Drummer onto track 2.  Now right out of the slot before I have even recorded anything with SD, each time I hit play it plays a snare drum roll Bb2 - the same as if I were hitting that note on my keyboard.  It doesn't even matter where I am at in the song or what measure I am on it will always trigger this note/sound.  I looked in the Event Editor and it does not show anything listed except for the wave file on track 1.  What I am puzzled by is what is triggering this Bb2 note?
 
Has anyone seen something like this or know how I can get it to stop?
 
Dave W.
2013/07/14 09:33:13
bitflipper
If you have more than one version of Session Drummer installed, they'll all be listed as available synths, just with slightly different names. SD1 will show up as just "Session Drummer", and S3 will be listed as "Session Drummer 3". You're just selecting the wrong one by (reasonably) picking "Session Drummer" off the list.
 
Your description of the other problem confounds me. By "Event Editor" do you mean the "Event List"? That doesn't show audio events, just MIDI. Maybe a screenshot would help.
2013/07/14 11:07:14
dwasmanjr
Thanks bitflipper for the reply.  For whatever reason I must not have more than one Session Drummer installed because that is the only one showing up on the list when I look back on it.  I'm not sure how I would go about getting Session Drummer 3 to load.  Would I have to go back through my install process again?  Since I do not even have disks anymore because of upgrading through Cakewalk website I'm not sure what to do there.  Maybe I'll have to contact customer support to help me. 
 
Yes I did mean event list as opposed to my incorrect listing of event editor.  What I was pointing out is that there were no midi events listed to possibly trigger this and that track 1 only showed that there was an audio track on it.  Yes I am extremely puzzled as to what is triggering the Session Drummer to play.  I just thought maybe someone else had experienced this particular problem and had some insight for me.  How would a screenshot help and how would I go about taking that?
 
Thanks again for responding.
 
Dave W.
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