2012/02/10 20:52:04
Danny Danzi
You're welcome bro....I figured you were probably experiencing a little of what that first file I posted was doing. Yeah, definitely check out the hot programs I mentioned. They work perfectly with V-Drums right out of the box so you shouldn't have much of a problem setting them up in about 10 minutes or less. Good luck! :)

-Danny
2013/07/03 07:06:40
cmemx
Great job Danny,
Of the drum samplers listed above, which one is your favorite? I too have v-drums in my home studio and want to utilize them with x2.
I'm having trouble getting my hi hat to respond the way it should. It's either fully open or fully closed in my midi recordings. Is it my session drummer or am I missing something?
2013/07/03 19:30:03
Danny Danzi
cmemx
Great job Danny,
Of the drum samplers listed above, which one is your favorite? I too have v-drums in my home studio and want to utilize them with x2.
I'm having trouble getting my hi hat to respond the way it should. It's either fully open or fully closed in my midi recordings. Is it my session drummer or am I missing something?




Hi Mike,
 
Thanks! Well, I'm using lots of stuff these days so it's really hard to pick a favorite. Superior, BFD 2, Slate Drums, Native Instruments...it's always different and depends on the song really.
 
As for your hats...it depends on the pedal and the software I believe. I could be mistaken here, but if you're using an older pedal, all it knew was open or closed. The new ones increment and decrement according to sensitivity and how hard you push with your foot. What pedal are you using?
 
Hmm you know, now that I think of it...that may not matter. I have an old set of V Drums and a newer set. The old set has no problems triggering BFD 2 hats in increments according to pedal pressure. BFD 2 has control for this and it allows you to tweak the hats to open and close where you want them with in between spots.
 
I know EZD won't do that, but Superior (the big brother to EZD) may have that sort of control. I have it but haven't noticed that I need to mess with it. Probably because I use that module on the newer V Drums kit.
 
Session drummer: I do not believe that works in increments. I think it's either open or closed and that is a software limitation, not your pedal. There is no way that I know of, to control how Session Drummer interacts with triggers and controllers. I will test this for you and get back to you. Maybe we'll get lucky and someone else will see our discussion and tell us the deal.
 
The above is what I've seen on my end in various situations. I can't promise you any of it would be correct on your end unless you are using the stuff I use here. But like I say, I'll see what happens with SD when I run my V-Drums through it. I've never used it with my V-Drums. I mostly use it for quickie ideas that I've tapped in using my keyboard with this virtual piano program I use. I'll see what I can dig up for you.
 
-Danny
2013/07/04 23:52:13
Danny Danzi
Mike, I did a few tests on all my drum modules. Unfortunately, only Session Drummer 3 fails on the hat thing. You get open or you get closed. The Steven Slate Bonham wet 1 kit sort of gives you the effect that the hats are sometimes half open due to the room verb, but they too are open/close.
 
All my other drum modules opened and closed in increments even with my older Roland hat pads (pd-7 on my little practice kit at the house) and my FD-7 pedal. Dinosaur stuff there but it works perfectly on everything else. I have my PD-7 pad on the hats to give me center and rim hits...so the center of the pad is like the center of a real hat giving you that tighter bell sound, and the edge of the hat gives you that smash sound. When you use this with SD3, the hits get a little weird with the rim/center giving off two different sounds and sometimes they even cancel each other out. So you're best bet is to put the pad into single trigger mode if you have a dual trigger pad.
 
SD3 is a really nice entry level drum synth for those on a tight budget. However, it falls way short of the "made for drums" programs out there. So if you're more of a pro drummer, you may want to buy a drum synth made for drums. Not that SD3 isn't, it just doesn't stand up to the big boys on the block like BFD 2, Superior or Steven Slate. The reason for that is due to how the big boy drum kits use multi-samples as well as how they handle midi from triggers. You get so many different hits per drum, you NEVER get that robot effect. They are so much like real drums, I actually like them as much as real drums.
 
Anyway, sorry I don't have better news for you. SD3 is really good though with a little tweaking if you mess with velocities after you record them and watch for robotic hits. You're out of luck with the hats but you should still be able to get some good results with SD3. Good luck. :)
 
-Danny
2013/07/09 07:17:22
cmemx
Dude, your a life saver.... I've been beating my head for the last few days and not much help anywhere else. thanks for the work man. i really appreciate it....I think I'm gonna go with Superior drummer..... 
2013/07/10 23:54:15
Danny Danzi
Not a problem Mike. Glad to have helped you.....good luck with everything.
 
-Danny
2013/07/13 22:01:21
Middleman
Danny, really good stuff here. Thanks for taking the time.
 
 
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