You are right of course Scott.

I just know how much damage these type of self-appointed 'experts' can cause.  Like I said earlier he will likely be employing every bit of knowledge gained here and passing it all off as his own 'genuis' further down the line.

It just made me gag this time and I've already engaged far more than I'd wanted to.

at this point youre feeding the troll..
 
Are you folks still discussing this?

Hilarious bull Jonbouy!

I installed a new motherboard on Wednesday, and am having various annoyances with the windows 8 partition.

Using the verifier, and some minidump readers, I find a bit about an HPET error. But I have hpet off in bios. So doing the searching this morning I find this:

[link=http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1075781-tweak-enable-hpet-in-bios-and-os-for-better-performance-and-fps/]http://www.neowin.net/for...r-performance-and-fps/[/link]

"tis about how windows must be forced to use ONLY hpet and performance is best. The dude claims it is the need for windows to sync hpet and the other timers that degrades performance.

j

and am having various annoyances with the windows 8 partition.

Windows 8 may well be another issue altogether with HPET.  I noticed somewhere that LAPIC has been dropped altogether so some changes have certainly been made.

What's the official release date on 8 now?  It must be pretty soon.

I'm likely to take your approach and put it on another partition for testing until I can get it performing as least as well as 7 currently is.  I'm not in a rush to migrate when stuff is already working great.  LOL I've only just relinquished my last little dependencies on XP so I'll probably put 8 on that partition now.

"jm24"
"tis about how windows must be forced to use ONLY hpet and performance is best. The dude claims it is the need for windows to sync hpet and the other timers that degrades performance.

There are many divergent opinions about HPET on the net..., and how it can be detrimental/beneficial in a multimedia context (audio/video). This thread confirms this without a doubt. There's a small utility I used during my testing that can quickly confirm which clock is in effect. You can find it here:

WinTimerTester 1.1

No installation needed and it is virus free as per my scans.

What you're looking for when using it is the "QueryPerformanceFrequency" value.

1] HPET ON in the bios & useplatformclock true = HPET = QPF of 14.31818 MHz (constant value)
2] HPET OFF in the bios & useplatformclock true = LAPICs = QPF of 3.57955 MH (constant value)

Any thing else is going to be  a combination of TSC + LAPICs or HPET.

that thread is just like this thread..

1 guy who thinks he has an answer and everyone else saying nope made it worse... hmmm.
not to mention its about gaming. there are tweaks i would do for gaming i would NOT do for audio/video..

last post in this 4 pages of useless thread..

Promise? 

I support windows comps for a bunch of small companies, organizations and individuals.

Got a mix of wXP, wV, w7, and soon to be w8. So am getting ready for what will come: new installs, upgrades, new hardware,....

On my music computer I have 3 partitions on the OS disk: w7-32, w7-64, and w8-64.


I have attempted to follow the various ideas/approaches in this thread.

The idea that drivers interfere with each other seems to be key to clarifying the differences experienced with the various tweaks used by us all. The linked thread interates the problem with stuff interacting.

Fur shur there are hundreds of thousands of processes happening when a computer is running. All kinds of stupid **** occurs because of the thousands of combinations of hardware and drivers. Very complex. Way underestimated by most people.

I want anything that is not of use to not be started/running.

New computers' speed can make many tweaks of the past irrelevant. 
And mask issues that only head-their-ugly-rears when least appreciated.

But I still do some tweaks just for grins.

The link has an interesting description of the need for HPET to be the lone timer.  

As usual some confuse startup speed with application performance.

No doubt the conflict caused by multiple timers is a clue for some annoyances.

j 

"jm24"
I want anything that is not of use to not be started/running.

It's nice to see that I'm not the only one thinking this way, even though we may have a different approach in accomplishing this. In the end, it's how you're satisfied with the performance of your machine and how it enhances your productivity without getting in the way, IMHO.