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Double...sorry.

The S1 is a widener but you have to run a stereo track on it for it to do it.....or at least an imaged track that has a stereo effect. Use the "widening" slider on a mono track...it won't widen and will phase. Then do the same thing on a stereo track or a stereo effected track and you'll really hear it come to life. Try the S-1 Shuffler for even more fun because then you can mess with spacial stuff via frequency. As with all wideners, you don't hear them come to life unless a stereo effect is last in the chain THEN you add your S-1 or whatever. But for mono situations, correct, they aren't much good at widening. Try what I'm saying...you'll hear what I mean. :)
 
-Danny

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It certainly is imaging for me and yes very interesting Mike with your tests. I wonder then why they are shifting phase like that.
 
I agree with Danny too. I use the S1 now and then and I tend to use it in a stereo widening capacity. Last in a chain over a very stereo synth or synth bus. eg a wide pad and the S1 takes it further out etc..I am not a fan of it over a very important buss. eg drums etc..It seems to skew things a bit for me. Detail can get lost and some transients too. It is still good to check mono compatibility over a mono speaker too to see how these things collapse down.
 
Turning mono sources into nice wide stereo sounds is a different matter and requires some different types of plugs and some effort usually.
 
Good point Mike though about using it for panning. There is always another use for something like that.

i happen to think using the S1 as a 'widener' washes out the sound a bit.
 
it does not sound natural...
which may be exactly what you are shooting for...

Interesting.
 

mike_mccue
It's remarkable to me that no other company includes that super easy, one button functionality for a easy breezy price.
 

If you do some more testing to figure out exactly what's going on, I wouldn't be surprised if I couldn't set up a single knob (or button) to control Channel Tools using ProChannel's FX chain. 
 
For free. 

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Maybe relational grouping of the channel tools controls would do the trick?

This makes me think that by using m auto align to resolve phase issues in live recordings that I might be hurting myself. Thoughts?