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  • Song For My Father (The far side of Jazz Guitar ; ) (p.2)
2017/02/25 11:25:37
gswitz
Yeah... I noticed and appreciated the bass.
2017/02/26 01:09:47
kennywtelejazz
jamesg1213
That is a really nice tone on the solo guitar Kenny. The intro is quite a trip!  Awesome jazz chops displayed sir!




 
Thank You Sir James your kind words are much appreciated .
 
daryl1968
Hi Kenny - I hope you are well.
Nice trippy start. Great playing and the mix sounds live which has to be a good thing right?




Hi Daryl ,
 
Yes, I'm hanging in there the best I know how too...
Generally , when I record I tend to shoot for a Live type of sound and feel in most areas...
Someday I hope to get to the point where I can sound Studio Polished along the lines of the type of song productions you do .
 
Thanks for taking the time to listen + also giving me The SoundCloud like
 
Lynn
A work in progress?  I wish I could end up with something like this.  Kenny, it's great to hear you play again.  I hope you're doing well.




Hi Lynn,
 
Yes, this song version is totally a work in progress ...
I haven't been here participating  on the songs forum in a long time . I wanted to get back here ...
In the days of old here on this forum , I used to post a knarly half baked song every so often and folks would give me that extra little kick in the pants to get me back on track ....Let's see how it turns out this time 
thank you for the kind words
 
8livesleft
Cool intro!

Nice piano playing. The bass is really great too. Did you play all the instruments?



Hello 8livesleft,
 
I'm happy you enjoyed my little intro
FWIW, I tend to play close to the vest . What that means is there is a whole experimental side to my guitar playing that people don't always get to hear ....
When I can I play every instrument on my songs...that even borders on using real instruments as opposed to using sampled instruments...
In this song , I didn't play the drums ,,,
I will say Yes to the piano ...I play midi guitar and I have a certain workflow using it that I'm not at liberty to discuss at this point in time ...
Bass Part huh ? maybe later on in the thread
 
bjornpdx
kennywtelejazz
 I hope someone enjoys the guitar playing



I enjoyed it! Really nice job.
 




Thank You Bjorn I'm glad you enjoyed my guitar playing .
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 
2017/02/26 09:33:04
kennywtelejazz
I did post a multi quote message hours ago ..after editing it once for some reason it did not show up ..
So I'm back to fill in the blanks while wondering if it will show up ...
 
jamesg1213
That is a really nice tone on the solo guitar Kenny. The intro is quite a trip!  Awesome jazz chops displayed sir!




Thank You Sir James
 
Your awesome commitment to having been so nice to me all these years combined with your unparalleled prowess ,  impeccable taste and killer tone while wielding a Les Paul has earned you your honorary Knighthood on my Planet . The Planet Tele X ....
 
your pal Kenny
 
2017/02/26 09:33:20
kennywtelejazz
I just had a total of 3 posts  I have posted here that have gotten munched .....Cakewalk what is going on here?
I ask because this is getting old
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3566431
 
Before I proceed any further I'm gonna see if my deleted post from 6 hours ago will show up..
thank you all for your patience 
Kenny
2017/02/27 01:20:18
kennywtelejazz
Jeff Evans
These are only my thoughts. I am not a fan of this for a few reasons. Firstly the head of this tune is really nice and in this version it is actually not stated anywhere which is a shame. 
 



Your words and thoughts huh? what were you doing while my song was playing at 1:44 to 225 ?
That's where I played the songs melody  ..typically it is played twice I chose to play the melody only once ...
 
Jeff Evans
 
 The guitar soloing sounds like scale practice over chords. Way too many notes. The soling does not actually say anything. Think how would Carlos Santanna or David Gilmour play a solo over this.  Very sparingly I would suggest. The solos could be born out of the head as well. They need to relate to it more I feel. 
 



 
Way too many notes ?
 
Compared to what and who ? George Benson ? Pat Martino ? Oscar Peterson ? Art Tatum ?, Joe Pass ? a Bach 2 Part Invention ? a Blue Grass Mandolin Player blowing over a Hornpipe at 140 BPM ? or any of the thousands of Shred Guitar Players that are out there ?
 
Carlos and Gilmore are Great ..they did their thing and I can respect that
 
The Thing Is I'm here to do my Thing ...
 
 
 
Kenny
 
2017/02/27 03:33:59
Jeff Evans
I do play drums but also compose music (over 300 soundtracks for film, TV and theatre so I know a thing or two about music) and also have studied a Jazz degree. (major on drums but took piano as second instrument) I understand a lot about Jazz harmony and chord progressions. I can hear any changes and substitutions.  (ever heard of the Lydian Chromatic concept. I am into that) In fact it was the reason I studied Jazz. Not to be a Jazz drummer but learn Jazz harmony and incorporate it in other music styles. 
 
I also grew up in the same town as Frank Gamble, played with him in a band and have heard him playing live with Chick Corea's Electric band many times. (and that amazing RTF gig they did too) Hung out with the guys after too. Frank has got chops. I can hear where his soloing is going all the time over much harder music than this.
 
I am just over this type of soling that is all over a tune like this. I feel the song deserves different approach but I guess everyone is entitled to do these things how they want. Your intro has no  bearing on the rest of the tune either.  I think your playing in this might suit another type of groove though. Some people may not like your music. Be prepared for it and handle it. It is how you handle it that counts.
2017/02/27 05:57:10
kennywtelejazz
Jeff , 
 
Thanks for sharing Dude   .
 
 
Kenny
 
 
2017/02/27 06:32:43
Jeff Evans
As I said it is how you handle it that counts.. Not well it seems. Anyway good luck with it all.
2017/02/27 07:54:05
kennywtelejazz
Jeff Evans
As I said it is how you handle it that counts.. Not well it seems. Anyway good luck with it all.





 
 
Kenny
2017/02/27 13:05:49
Jeff Evans
I was under the impression that posting songs in the songs forum was to get some feedback on your production be it good, bad or OK.  I merely expressed an opinion of which I have heard in a similar manner by others with others songs. Others have usually taken any negative points by other members in quite well. I am not suggesting you have to completely re do it either. But you can always learn from feedback. Good and bad. It can be a very good thing.
 
I guess it is the reason I don't spend too much time listening here. Although I have listened to and made comments about other peoples songs as well that was well received. Heck I even completely remixed one song in one case for a member here in order to show them what I was on about.  (production wise) And that was very well received.  And I enjoyed doing it too.
 
You thought I was not understanding Jazz or hearing the changes. Sorry to name drop or list my credits but I was only trying to point out I actually do understand Jazz very well and like it a lot too. But maybe its a Sonar club thing and only patting on the back is permitted here.  You would have a difficult time working with a producer that is for sure. They would rip your music apart and rebuild it.  I suppose too that composing music for a long time and getting paid for it has to toughen you up. I am used to people sometimes not liking what I have done.  (Gosh wait till work for an ad agency. They are crazy!!) And either changing it or even completely starting again. That is the world of getting paid to do what you do. They have all the power and control. It can be very upsetting but I have learned  don't get emotionally involved with the music. That is the secret. You just have to let it go and move on. 
 
Interesting thing about Frank too is that I have heard him many times playing Chick Corea tunes and playing the way does in that situation but late last year he came out here with a beautiful band. I got to hear it of course. He is working with his wife now (as well as Chick still) in this real cool lounge Jazz vocal type vibe and he is really holding back and I mean holding back. Frank holding back is something to behold. He is playing these sort of Gilmour, Santanna like solos now. He has got so much time to play the notes and he is thinking it so well. Every note counts. The emotion in his playing is incredible. Hard to believe considering he is so fast etc.. I have heard him holding back many years ago and always loved it but he was never into it. But now he is doing it.  His solos build too and he does get a little quick here and there but just at the right time and only for fleeting moments.  I think I just had all that in my head when I heard your tune and thought it could go the same way.
 
I do admire your attitude though of this is the way I am going to do it and I don't care if you don't like it. (although that does not pan out in your responses so much) I have had to do that on a few ocassions especially in a theatre situation. Stand by what I have done and in the end they gave in and the music stayed the way it was. And of course on opening night the director finally realised what I was on about and agreed that it was the right choice. 
 
You did say the Far side of Jazz guitar and I did overlook that and I am also sorry for that. You did give plenty of warning! Anyway sorry to have upset you Kenny. Keep well.
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