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2017/03/13 21:05:20
Rimshot
Well done Ben! I really enjoyed that. My fav from you. Nice mix, vocals, arrangement and video.
Hope all is well.

2017/03/14 05:49:41
BenMMusTech
Hi Jimmy, thanks for comments and listening. 
 
I'm alright, could be better...just finished a Masters of Philoshopy, waiting for marking...up to 6 months of being in limbo.
 
Cheers Ben
2017/03/15 05:04:07
emeraldsoul
Cool from the get go! Your vocal really is great and the bgv's, and the mellotronishness, it's just a really great re-creation of the Beatles vibe. And then you add some effects here and there, it all fits.
 
There is no reason you shouldn't let it run long, given the subject matter, if that is what obviously pleases you!
 
But from the emotionally-neutral listener's perspective, if something is 5 and a half long, maybe a different part in the middle, or an interlude, or a drum solo, or something to break up the pattern for a bit would be a thought.
 
Or my attention span is just too short. And you are writing this for yourself, so there you go.
 
It's a great choice of song and you did a great job bringing the past to life.
 
cheers,
-Tom
2017/03/15 06:13:40
BenMMusTech
Thanks Tom, the mellotronish is actually GMedia's virtual mellotron, which Rick Wakeman said to his ears was virtually indistinguishable from the real thing...and he should know he recorded some of the original Mellotron sounds. As for length, the base track was done some years ago, when my skill level wasn't as great. Rather than redesign the whole track, which would have problematic due to the fact I don't have a virtual Mellotron anymore, Windows 10 doesn't like the installer disk and files and for that matter nor does Sonar, and also I don't have my Epiphone Hofner replica, I decided to keep the base structure. But thank you for listening and your comments.
 
Ben
2017/03/15 13:24:47
emeraldsoul
BenMMusTech
Rather than redesign the whole track, which would have problematic due to the fact I don't have a virtual Mellotron anymore, Windows 10 doesn't like the installer disk and files and for that matter nor does Sonar, and also I don't have my Epiphone Hofner replica, I decided to keep the base structure. 




Gosh I am glad there's someone else who is pragmatic about a list of obstacles like this! Ben that makes me feel better about my own list . . . one does not simply wave a magic wand and resurrect an old project. You did good.     -Tom
2017/03/15 13:58:25
Starise
Very nice Ben. Has that Beatles retro stamp all over it, yet it retains the signature Ben sound. I can tell your fingers were at the mixing board. Nice work. You have way more patience than I do. It would be hard for me to return to something I mixed a long time ago and re work it. Might be fun though.
2017/03/15 22:57:22
BenMMusTech
emeraldsoul
BenMMusTech
Rather than redesign the whole track, which would have problematic due to the fact I don't have a virtual Mellotron anymore, Windows 10 doesn't like the installer disk and files and for that matter nor does Sonar, and also I don't have my Epiphone Hofner replica, I decided to keep the base structure. 




Gosh I am glad there's someone else who is pragmatic about a list of obstacles like this! Ben that makes me feel better about my own list . . . one does not simply wave a magic wand and resurrect an old project. You did good.     -Tom




Hi Tom, I have issues lol. But in all seriousness, I'm actually a Techno-Romantic/Modernist, something I worked out during my Masters of Philosophy (Fine Farts) degree lol, ;) yes I can take the piss out of myself. Basically, a romantic and a modernist artist would keep experimenting till they got it right. This is the problem with today's post-modernist, post-digital world...the post-modernist's rejected the modernists' idealistic experimentation, this is causing much larger problems, because in a techno centric world as both the aforementioned movements have demonstrated...idealistic experimentation is essential in mastering both current and emerging technology. Otherwise, we have the I-Fools button pressers...oh yea I'm a musician/artist...I can press a button and play someone elses sample, and call it whatever. :) 
 
Thanks Tom
2017/03/15 23:12:08
BenMMusTech
Starise
Very nice Ben. Has that Beatles retro stamp all over it, yet it retains the signature Ben sound. I can tell your fingers were at the mixing board. Nice work. You have way more patience than I do. It would be hard for me to return to something I mixed a long time ago and re work it. Might be fun though.




Hi Tim, as I said to Tom...issues. For me, it's not only about going back and re-mixing and fixing things, its about learning and experimenting. When I got the RS56 Waves Passive EQ, I knew I had discovered a key element in not only The Beatles sound, but in mastering full stop. This meant, all my previous works, the ones I believed were of a certain standard needed to be re-mixed and mastered. I must I've also worked out a particular formula for each channel too, involving two types of EQ, and also emulation like the console and tape and where to put them in the signal chain. Basically I've mastered Alan Parson's black back drop theory, but because I'm completely digital, I've added the flavor in. And this is another key, that I've discovered during my research degree...you have to add the flavor back in with digital, unlike analogue which prints with analogue flavor, and of course this is what makes the digitized medium such a good storage container.
 
Thanks Tim
Ben 
2017/03/16 16:34:34
daryl1968
this is great Ben. Really creative
2017/03/16 21:43:23
BenMMusTech
daryl1968
this is great Ben. Really creative




Thanks Daryl. Creative is my thing :), apparently. 
Ben
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