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  • Pleasurize Music Foundation: End the Loudness War (p.4)
2009/03/21 05:57:38
syrath
Ok Signed up.
2009/03/21 06:49:06
Wookiee

ORIGINAL: Marah


ORIGINAL: barlowjam

This is similar to a movement that I am trying to start. It's one where heavy metal guys will be forced to learn what a third is.

(I think this movement has just as much chance of being sucessful as mine! )

Just kidding guys - I like POWER CHORDS (in moderation).



heehee! I don't do metal (whatever metal means) but I'm about to explore the world of drop-D tuning... on my only guitar... with a locking nut... so it's gonna take a real commitment. I hope to forget what a third is!


This may of course be a minor decison leading to a major mistake.
























I am sorry someone had to say it.
2009/03/21 09:09:46
ed97643
Their manual seems to indicate that the tool only works at 16 bit / 44.1; can anyone verify this?

If that is so, then that alone would prevent me from dropping it in my master bin.
2009/03/21 09:30:54
syrath
Yes but surely it has to work at 16 bit 44.1 kHz since its meant to measure the mastered CD version of a track, as opposed to a post mix version, so slapping it on the master channel to measure a 24 bit 96 kHz file isnt going to measure the CD mastered version.
2009/03/21 10:49:36
RTGraham

ORIGINAL: AndyW


ORIGINAL: RTGraham
A) It's a hoax


I doubt it, given the extensiveness of the site and the list of partners.


B) Their research, principles, and assertions are valid and proven, but whoever is presenting the arguments online is an amateur at thesis defense


Could be...but I think the graphic illustration on the front page are pretty clear....plus I have read a lot of articles and study on this topic...I don't think many disagree that overcompressing destroys(literally...clips) the music. Do a google for the Metallica "Death Magnetic" fiasco for a current example.


C) They truly think they're right, but the principles are *not* in fact proven.


Feel free to check it out and judge for yourself.




Don't get me wrong - I'm not specifically disputing anything they're saying. Everything seems plausible enough, and certainly mirrors statements we've all heard before. Not to mention the fact that they list the creator of the MP3 format on their board of directors. It just seemed a little odd to me for them to present so much information as "technical fact" and to state that things are "scientifically proven," but fail to indicate where, when or by whom. The presentation is thorough enough that I would have expected footnotes or supporting documentation.

So I'm still at the "see-how-much-momentum-they-gain" stage.
2009/03/22 19:12:14
Texrat
I think this is a good goal, no matter what, and just reading the info helped this old songwriter but very new recording noob understand a few things. ;)
2009/03/22 19:14:34
AndyW

ORIGINAL: RTGraham

It just seemed a little odd to me for them to present so much information as "technical fact" and to state that things are "scientifically proven," but fail to indicate where, when or by whom. The presentation is thorough enough that I would have expected footnotes or supporting documentation.


Good points.
2009/03/22 19:27:36
Marah
ORIGINAL: Wookiee

heehee! I don't do metal (whatever metal means) but I'm about to explore the world of drop-D tuning... on my only guitar... with a locking nut... so it's gonna take a real commitment. I hope to forget what a third is!


This may of course be a minor decison leading to a major mistake.

I am sorry someone had to say it.



Hi Wookiee.

Can you explain further what you mean? I haven't done it yet. But I DO have some concern about what impact changing the neck tension will have on my guitar. Is that what you're getting at?

Thank you!
2009/03/22 19:33:36
Marah
Here are some "Official DR values" for a semi-random sampling of stuff on my hard drive. Sorted by DR num, then by artist.

What does it actually mean?



EXTRA BONUS TRACKS!

My Bloody Valentine - When You Sleep - DR10
My Bloody Valentine - Come In Alone - DR11
Iggy Pop - China Girl - DR9
Iggy Pop - Lust For Life (song) - DR10
Iggy Pop - Funtime - DR8
Hole - Celebrity Skin (cd) - DR7
Elastica - Elastica (cd) - DR7

2009/03/23 00:00:50
JSGlen
Hi Marah,

After playing guitar for over 40 years I too started playing around with Drop-D tuning on my acoustic guitar. I'm having fun with it. John Denver uses Drop -D on many of his songs. For me it was like opening up a whole new path to play on my neck. I haven't noticed any problems due to changes in neck tension.
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