konradh


Beethoven's drummer was Count Carl von Schnitzelbank.

I thought it was Boris von Schnitzeltrauber

A couple of points.  In the realm of popular music the Beatles first introduced many of the styles and forms of music into pop idiom that we take for granted now.  At a certain point in one's development (or mine and many of the musician's I know) it is common to slag the Beatles.  And their early stuff is too saccarine for my tastes.  But then most of us realize what they did for pop - and rock and roll.  They expanded it and I don't know of any other band that could have done that.  It might have happened over time, but not in 5-6 years.  A personal observation is that George Martin had a lot to do with it, esp. the ability to handle the orchestration of their later music.  Basically in 1964 you had pop like "love me do" that might be fun to sing along to but leaves you hungry, and straight ahead rock and roll.  The Beatles opened up everything else and threw it into the mix.  And made it popular, even tape-based sampling.  "Number 9" by anyone else wouldn't have gotten a listen except for a couple of acedemic types.

Another thing it is easy to forget is how good their rock and roll instincts were - which is what they get slagged on about.  Not their rocking, but the alledged lack of it.  But their last live shows are pure addrenlin - loud noise right up there w/ the stones etc.  It is interesting to watch ... stet that ... listen to the video.

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I remember an interview with Ringo where he commented about the way he altered his playing style to fit the available technology of the day.  In some of their earlier big venue gigs, the engineer would only use a mic on his kick and his snare with no tom or overhead mics.  If he tried to play a fill on the toms, the sound just disappeared.  As a result, he adapted accordingly.

What I appreciate about Ringo is his emphasis on musicality over technical brilliance.  You can master an instrument, perform unbelievable finger twisting, hand blurring, mind breaking complex technical wizardry all day long.  If it's more of a technical excercise than music dripping from your soul, it leaves me cold. 

All this talk of the Beatles........love to look back......I remember playing their LP's over and over and over .......and over.....and over........

Some of it I loved....some I hated but I always played it......

the only bad memory I have which has really nothing to do with them actually but a divorce tatic by the ex was she took one of my early LP's ( On Capitol records) layed it down on the floor and did the twist on it till it was just one big scuff mark.........

Of course there was nothing I could do at that moment ......the guys with the guns and badges with the motorola's seen to that...............................

But like they say....every dog has it's day!!!!!!!!!!    



Arf......arf....... and I'm still smiling!
 
 
 
and I still enjoy living alone..............
Clifford 

Ringo's playing reflects his humility. Glad "the boys" let him play in the band... but Ringo played EXACTLY what the song needed. I mean, can you imagine if the BEATLES had instead have had Ginger Baker on drums?

I would like to see Ringo's band, I did not realize that he is still playing out.

J

Deserves more credit? : Well he is the drummer for the most popular band of the 20th and going into the 21st century: and he's a multi-millionare probably several times over because of his credit. I never met the guy but even I know his name: I bet over a billion people can associate his name with his accomplishments. Naw.... he's doing ok.

You know rbh, I think it's a matter of...well, sometimes *some* of us (namely me lol) forget just how much of an impact/influence Ringo had. I'm more into drummers with a bit more technique to be honest. Guys like Danny Seraphine, Bonham, Peart, Mike Portnoy etc. However, and this is HUGE however....I recently found an old playlist that I used to use when I was a kid playing drums. I'd stack albums on top of each other (33's) and just play through them all until they were all done. The White Album, Abbey Road and Rubber Soul always seem to make my list of stuff to jam along to as well as Chicago, Alice Cooper, Gentle Giant, Boz Scaggs, Billy Joel, The Who, Zep, Traffic, Al Stewart etc.

One of the things I like to pride myself on being a musician, is my timing. I'm one of those guys that you can just about set your clock by with any instrument I play. I'm not very good at the instruments I play, but my timing is pretty solid. I definitely blame a lot of that on Ringo as well as learning from him what NOT to play as far as over-playing goes. It takes quite a bit of discipline to NOT play something even when you feel it. He sort of reminds me of the drummer from AC/DC....nothing fancy technically speaking, but a meter that is spot on as well as drum parts that fit the songs without being a showcase drummer.

I also liked quite a bit of Ringo's solo stuff. Always a good hook and a good song for the most part. I definitely salute the guy and given him credit for parts of my drumming style. As much as I now favor drumming that is a bit more technical, sometimes less is more especially when it's delivered in the way Ringo did it. :)

-Danny

strikinglyhandsome1


'Beethoven wasn't even the greatest composer in his house' according to Mozart

I know this was several pages ago but this is funny!

konradh


I have always liked The Beatles and the way they changed the world.  I have been face-to-face with all four of them before, and am going to see Ringo's band in a couple of weeks.
 
Ringo does not get enough credit.  He brought a new playing style to rock, and The Beatles would have sounded very different without him.
 
A few days ago, I felt the drums in a song I was working on were too straight ahead and boring.  I asked myself, "How would Ringo play this?"  The result—whether or not Ringo would approve—was less ordinary without being weird.
 
As most scholars and historians agree, I am the second coolest guy on Earth.  Ringo is #1.

I don't understand. More credit? He was the drummer in a band that as you stated- "changed the world". Paul, George and John must have thought he was great and what more credit could Ringo
receive than that?
If one doesn't agree with them...who cares?
 
I believe he received the credit he deserved and will forever be
in the pages of music history as the drummer of The Beatles.
 
 

I think he's a standard bearer... and he was an equal partner in a band of genius's in my opinion. I give him all the credit he could handle, but then I'm a piss-ant and he's...well .. you know ......RINGO - and he was the coolest Beatles cartoon character of the by far... so take that SIR MR McARTNEY ! There I said it...someone had to.