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2017/02/19 19:13:27
Cactus Music
OK folks I spent a few hours on it. 
I soloed the bass track and it was a terrible recording, I think it was one I used my Hondo bass on. 
So here's a forum Challenge for you all:
I am going to see if anyone here can identify the brand of bass I now used!  
 
Anyhow I think you'll be happy with that improvement alone,  it filled things out. 
I re directed the Kick drum from Strike2 to TTS-1. Don't laugh, I think it's the perfect kick sometimes. Also it lets me add a bit of reverb to the whole drum kit. 
So working on the mid rangy thing, I swapped out Mr Tramp for a cleaner Elec Piano using Lounge Lizard.  
Still not happy, I recorded a whole new regular piano part as I could "hear" something I wanted on the choruses. 
That also added some brightness to the soundscape. 
I've added a BU vocal but I don't really like doing my own so this was just an experiment. 
2017/02/19 19:31:54
Lynn
I like it.  You answered my two suggestions.  I don't know what kind of bass you're playing, but it sounds like my Fender running through Guitar Rig 5.
2017/02/20 01:00:01
Cactus Music
OK no takers on the bass? Its my new ( to me)  favorite Sonar trick. 
 
I took the crappy sounding bass track and dropped it on a midi track. The sound is good 'ol SI bass. 
I was going to re play the part on my Yamaha bass and Fender Rumble system,, but it was well played to begin with so I figured what the hey. It worked. It takes a little editing but in the end it results in a better bass track. You get the best of both worlds. The feel and articulation of a real bass, and the ability to quantize and move a few notes that creates interesting patterns. And all those string Buzzes and pops are gone too. 
2017/02/20 07:56:05
daryl1968
Cactus Music
OK no takers on the bass? Its my new ( to me)  favorite Sonar trick. 
 
I took the crappy sounding bass track and dropped it on a midi track. The sound is good 'ol SI bass. 
I was going to re play the part on my Yamaha bass and Fender Rumble system,, but it was well played to begin with so I figured what the hey. It worked. It takes a little editing but in the end it results in a better bass track. You get the best of both worlds. The feel and articulation of a real bass, and the ability to quantize and move a few notes that creates interesting patterns. And all those string Buzzes and pops are gone too. 


Very cool. Melodyne is clever stuff.
2017/02/20 08:55:08
dcumpian
Never heard the original, but this is good. I would probably add a bit of bottom to the lick, not much, but it is a little light there. Other than that, I think it is pretty good as it is.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2017/02/20 13:30:41
Cactus Music
Thanks Dan, But I'm not clear on what your saying about the low end? The lik is played on 2 guitars one low and one high, Then the bass is played in the bottom range too. Myself I can hear each of  those parts so it seems well covered frequency wise.  
 
But if you think it lacks low end overall I'll look into that. This is why I post here the feedback from this gang is important to me. So cool to have others listen on different systems be that a crappy laptop or proper studio monitors.
At home I dump the songs to a USB stick and go play them in the office which has my old Tannoy 6.5's and in the front room which has a sub and a pair of Missions. My studio system has the NMS 10's and a set of small 4" speakers on B channel of my integrated amp. If you can make a mix sound good on those little things your 99% there. 
 
Tonight I will burn a CD to play in the car I have about 6 songs that are very close to done.  I started a new song last night so I get side tracked from the mixing process easily. 
2017/02/20 14:59:17
dcumpian
Cactus Music
Thanks Dan, But I'm not clear on what your saying about the low end? The lik is played on 2 guitars one low and one high, Then the bass is played in the bottom range too. Myself I can hear each of  those parts so it seems well covered frequency wise.  
 
But if you think it lacks low end overall I'll look into that. This is why I post here the feedback from this gang is important to me. So cool to have others listen on different systems be that a crappy laptop or proper studio monitors.
At home I dump the songs to a USB stick and go play them in the office which has my old Tannoy 6.5's and in the front room which has a sub and a pair of Missions. My studio system has the NMS 10's and a set of small 4" speakers on B channel of my integrated amp. If you can make a mix sound good on those little things your 99% there. 
 
Tonight I will burn a CD to play in the car I have about 6 songs that are very close to done.  I started a new song last night so I get side tracked from the mixing process easily. 




Ha ha, I meant "kick". I should have reread it before posting...I can imagine the confusion.
 
Regards,
Dan
2017/02/20 18:46:26
Cactus Music
Ah, Good one I'll fatten it up-  if anyone here knows their stuff it's you Dan!!  Your production on that song you just posted makes mine sound like a wet noodle. Well actually most of my songs start out as noodles on the guitar :) This one included. 
Thanks ever so much for listening everyone. Tonight I'll post another song. 
2017/02/20 20:52:35
emeraldsoul
Really like it! The performances are all very solid.
 
Mix-wise, I'm hearing the vocals buried by the snare and that higher pitched guitar. Are your guitars playing at the same volume throughout the entire song? If so, you might drop their volume a db or so while the vocals are doing their thing. Just a little something to bring that vocal out front more?
 
It's a catchy tune fer sure.
 
cheers,
-Tom
 
 
2017/02/21 00:07:30
Cactus Music
Tom thanks for your input and your comments had me return to the studio and see about those suggestions. 
 
There was volume envelopes on the guitar parts, So I soloed the track to see which one was which and right away I was hearing----MISTAKES!!. This is what happens if you start recording a song and walk away from it for a few months. You forget where you left off, Obviously that was a scratch guitar part...It's amazing that I never soloed the track, The mistakes were very minor but I'm picky about stuff like that. You don't hear it in the mix but it's there! 
So I replayed it and brought the guitar down, Listening right now I think I went too far and I don't like the Panning so I'm not done yet,  but I re posted the latest mix for further comment. 
 
As for Dans suggestion I swapped out the Kick to the Strike2 kit and I lowered the snare volume a tad.
Now Without the loud guitars I was hearing the Lounge Lizard piano part and changed that to a different patch that I like better now,  That is the Phased sound you hear in the background.  
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