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  • Please Advise: 6i6 vs. UR-44 (Now With a Field Report) (p.2)
2015/06/19 11:40:04
charlyg
maximumpower
Just FYI - Focusrite told me they would have Windows 10 drivers available by the time Windows 10 came out.
 
I have no opinion between which interface to get (sorry) although I am interested to hear which one you choose and how well you liked it.




I'm running their beta on Win10 eval. Better than the old driver!
2015/06/19 15:10:45
Larry Jones
Rimshot - I'm on Win 7, and I will probably upgrade, but not right away. The way I see it, Steinberg has over a year to get Win 10 drivers ready (in order for me to take advantage of MS's free offer), so if I end up with UR-44 I should be OK. I like Win 7.
My entire DAW career has been using a mixer into my sound card. I've never had to think about gain -- always had plenty. But I am hearing this "not enough gain" (and low headphone volume) thing about a lot of low cost interfaces, including both the ones I'm looking at. Thanks for the reminder. One more thing to hang me up. 
MaxPower - I'll let you know what I think, if I can ever make up my mind!
Johnny V. -  I saw your review and read your helpful "blurb."
Charlyg - You're a brave man.
 
Still leaning Steinberg, although the Win 10 driver issue gives me pause. I wonder how the existing driver would work...
2015/06/19 15:14:20
batsbrew
IF YOU WERE willing to pay for a UR44,
i'd step up with a little more, and get the 4 input focusrite 
 

Focusrite Scarlett 18i8

http://www.sweetwater.com.tore/detail/Scarlett18i8
2015/06/19 15:31:02
Larry Jones
batsbrew
IF YOU WERE willing to pay for a UR44,
i'd step up with a little more, and get the 4 input focusrite 
 Focusrite Scarlett 18i8
http://www.sweetwater.com.tore/detail/Scarlett18i8

Batsbrew - OK, I'll bite. Why do you think the 18i8 would be the right choice? Preamps? Mix Control? Latency? I could swing the extra 50 bucks, if you'll come to LA and play on one of my tracks.
2015/06/19 16:49:31
charlyg
Man, if I ever need more than 2 inputs, I think that 8i8 may just be the ticket.
2015/06/20 06:14:43
musichoo
I just bought the 18i8 yesterday. It was a big upgrade from my older UA25EX. Nice sound and clear. On the mix control a workable size setting was 2ms. I use mainly softsynths. On Splat it display displayed input latency of 5.4ms and output 7.4ms with total roundtrip at 12.8ms. My older UA25EX I could managed at little bit better 11 plus ms roundtrip.
2015/06/20 13:44:19
Larry Jones
musichoo
I just bought the 18i8 yesterday. It was a big upgrade from my older UA25EX. Nice sound and clear. On the mix control a workable size setting was 2ms. I use mainly softsynths. On Splat it displayed input latency of 5.4ms and output 7.4ms with total roundtrip at 12.8ms. My older UA25EX I could managed at little bit better 11 plus ms roundtrip.


musichoo - See, this is what spooks me about "upgrading" to USB. I don't have a lot of features on my sound card (the same Audiophile I see in your equipment list), but under "Driver Settings," Sonar informs me:
 
"ASIO reported latencies (includes buffer and hardware latencies):
Input: 3.1 msec (299 samples)
Output: 3.0 msec (284 samples)
Total round trip: 6.1 msec (583 samples)
...so it looks as if this very nice USB interface is only about half as "fast" as my aging cheap PCI card. I have no first hand experience with a 12.8 msec delay. On paper it doesn't seem that bad, but I don't know if I could play with that much delay. My main instrument is guitar, and I make use of amp sims, so direct monitoring (for "near-zero latency") wouldn't work for me.

2015/06/20 14:06:09
Rimshot
Using my UR44 at 96 sample rate, and Sonar Sampling Rate of 48000 I get:
Input 4.6 msec 219 samples
Output 5.5 mscec 262 samples
Total Rountrip: 10.0 msec, 481 samples
 
I could go down to 64 Samples but that puts too much strain on my CPU. Those numbers are:
 
Input: 3.9 msec. 187 samples
Output: 4.8 msec. 230 samples
Total Roundtrip: 8.7 samples
 
 
 
 
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