Askimet strikes again.  Post gone.  As soon as I added a link to source my data, poof.  All for the best, I'm sure.

I have restored your post, VLV.

 
 
 
 
 

Urm... but us "Not Americans" understand OUR laws, and that, although not perfect, do seem to work much better in regards to this type of thing.
 
BTW, most of the street level gun crime in Canada is committed using guns smuggled in from the US so we do kind of have a stake in the issue.
 
Just sayin'.

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Also there is ONE person in this thread who went all in on the politicizing of this issue... and he sure don't strike me as a "gun grabber".
 
Now back to your regularly scheduled post massacre 2A flamewar.
 

Beepster
Urm... but us "Not Americans" understand OUR laws, and that, although not perfect, do seem to work much better in regards to this type of thing.
 
BTW, most of the street level gun crime in Canada is committed using guns smuggled in from the US so we do kind of have a stake in the issue.
 
Just sayin'.

All violence is horrible Beepster.  I wish there was peace on Earth.  Believe me!!  I am a gentle person.  I just don't want to be harmed by anybody.
 
It is a sad truth that the most gentle among us, are usually the victims of violence.  Everybody has a right not to be a victim.
 
As I said before..  I do not know what the answer is.
 
Just to pray for all the victims.  Maybe one day peace will reign on Earth

bitflipper
I love a good debate as much as anyone, but to my surprise I find myself agreeing with every position posited so far in this thread. Event the tasteless Bangles reference. There are many ways to view this situation as we all desperately try to make some kind of sense out of it.
 
Sense will elude us, though, because no proposed preventative measures would have prevented this tragedy.  The guy had given no indication that he was crazy, he just snapped like Michael Douglass' character in Falling Down. The guns were legally purchased (even if he'd made illegal modifications to them). He wasn't a member of any extremist group. He was a wealthy man quietly living in a quiet small town suburb.
 
What will happen is investigators will find out the shooter was taking vitamin D supplements, and that will become the official explanation and then we'll all feel better.
 
The real question is: why weren't these things happening 50 years ago? What changed in us? 

Exactly, this issue is not about guns, it is about the devaluization of human life.

Exactly, this issue is not about guns, it is about the devaluization of human life. The real question is: why weren't these things happening 50 years ago? What changed in us?
 
Maybe 50 years of brutal senseless wars where the foreign policy of this country has killed millions of Vietnamese, Lebanese, Iragis, Cambodians, Laotians, Afghans, Panamanians. etc.

Beepster
Also there is ONE person in this thread who went all in on the politicizing of this issue... and he sure don't strike me as a "gun grabber".
 
Now back to your regularly scheduled post massacre 2A flamewar.
 

Beepster
Also there is ONE person in this thread who went all in on the politicizing of this issue... and he sure don't strike me as a "gun grabber".
 
Now back to your regularly scheduled post massacre 2A flamewar.
 

Beepster
Also there is ONE person in this thread who went all in on the politicizing of this issue... and he sure don't strike me as a "gun grabber".
 
Now back to your regularly scheduled post massacre 2A flamewar.
 

 I ASSUME, you mean me.  I'm not for getting rid of guns, any more than I am getting rid of automobiles.  Both need to be regulated.