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  • What does your pedalboard setup include? (p.8)
2013/01/23 19:23:07
Danny Danzi
Haha yeah John, the last I heard and saw, that's exactly what he had going on. I don't know if he's using it right now with the most current project, but he's really enjoyed that amp and used it pretty much since he did that album with David Coverdale. I remember seeing him do some little show via video that seemed recent....he looked the way he does now with the white hair etc, and sure enough, he was using a 5150. He doesn't use it on extreme gain setting or anything....I actually liked the tone he was getting better than some of his older tones.

I know you'll kill me for saying that...the older tones to me (though I completely respect them and do enjoy them) just seemed a bit raspy to me at times...you know, the looser gain type thing with more amp volume for output tube saturation? I guess John...I've never much been a fan of that sort of tone other than Angus Young or the early EVH tones. I was born in the 60's and grew up on classic rock etc...go figure. LOL! I guess I just prefer a tone with a tighter gain stage with a bit more processing. The purist tone guys hate me, my sound, my playing and everything I stand for. LOL!! Like...Steve Howe...absolutely love his playing...but man, that tone...at times, like nails on a chalkboard. Yet I love the Bad Company sound or even some of Ted Nugent's tones.

Ok wait, I know what it is. I was more a drummer when I was into classic rock. When I heard the 80's guitar tones from like EVH and Randy Rhoads....I was like...wow...that's soo cool because it DOESN'T sound like the guitar sound I'm used to." You know...sometimes we get shell-shocked into something to the extent of being blown away by it...that was me. From there though some of the playing in the 80's was too shreddy and untasteful, some of the tones really hit home for me and I've sort of been a bit more into the processed tube tones over the purist, "crank that plexi till birds explode" tone. LOL! :)

-Danny
2013/01/23 19:46:54
michaelhanson
My favorite tone has always been Gilmour's.  Jimmy is high on the list though.  A 5150, wow, I would n't have guessed that.
2013/01/23 20:44:16
Danny Danzi
MakeShift


My favorite tone has always been Gilmour's.  Jimmy is high on the list though.  A 5150, wow, I would n't have guessed that.

I love Gilmour too Mike! If only I'd stop raping his passages with my tone and eratic playing. LOL! You'll impale me for this, but hopefully it will crack you up a bit too. :) Laugh first though, you can beat me up later. Hahaha!
 
My last cover band...we were doing a heavy version of the song The Wall. My keyboard player was a bit unsure of what the chords were to the solo section, so I threw a little midi of it together so he could hear the parts.
 
He replies back...."you send me that midi and you don't do the solo you mutha $%^&^%$ etc etc. LOL! So I grabbed a guitar, fired up my little tube pre, forgot to change the delay to the correct time lol and just let this fly and said "fine, here's your solo b!tch, you happy now?! :) 
  
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/BrickWithSolo.mp3
 
Incidentally, that "pinch harm" thing I've been talking about, can be heard at the very end of this...last note I play. That's the type of pinch stuff I can't seem to get out of any transistor amp or plugin. Hear how it just has that "hit you in the heart" kinda sound to it? That's the kinda thing I'm talking about...if I did that with an amp or VST that didn't have a 12AX7 going on, I've never been able to get this type of sound. I can get close, but it never hits like this does.
 
-Danny
2013/01/23 20:59:31
pistolpete
I don't think Gilmour has anything to worry about brother.
2013/01/23 21:54:30
Danny Danzi
pistolpete


I don't think Gilmour has anything to worry about brother.


Nor do I. I'm perfectly happy with how I play and wouldn't change a thing.
2013/01/23 22:42:26
michaelhanson
LOL. 

Danny, yep, it starts out Gilmourish and then kind of slides into EVH.  Cool stuff, though.  So, is that just the tube pre and delay making up the majority of your tone.  Sounds pretty good.  I don't know of any plug that gets that "tube squeal" either.  There are just a lot of subtleties to tubes that are almost impossable to match.

Peter is back to what we have all come to expect!
2013/01/24 00:43:29
ampfixer
One thing I used to have on a pedal board was a wah connected backwards. When I learned how he got that weird sound on Echo's it just killed me. Gilmourish.com has a video on how he does it and how it was originally just an accident.

If Jimmy is using a 5150 I say good on him. I don't care what he uses because he will always be the guy that wrote all that amazing stuff. The only reason I hate them is because I have to fix them. Guys bring in a 5150 and ask me about the tonal difference they'll hear if they buy a $200 Mullard pre amp tube. High gain isn't about cork sniffing, it's more about attitude and controlling the beast.

By the time high gain stuff really exploded, Jimmy was retired. Glad he's feeding his inner child.
2013/01/24 00:59:41
droddey
It's nice (and depressing) on It Might Get Loud, when he goes into his instrument vault and breaks out God's Personal Vintage Marshall half stack and Les Paul, amid stacks of vintage instruments and amps. I could probably set up a nice studio here if I had that guitar to sell.
2013/01/24 06:03:11
Danny Danzi
MakeShift


LOL. 

Danny, yep, it starts out Gilmourish and then kind of slides into EVH.  Cool stuff, though.  So, is that just the tube pre and delay making up the majority of your tone.  Sounds pretty good.  I don't know of any plug that gets that "tube squeal" either.  There are just a lot of subtleties to tubes that are almost impossable to match.

Peter is back to what we have all come to expect!

Haha, I figured you'd get a kick out of it Mike. I just have fun with stuff and add a bit of myself into things when I can. :) Yeah that's the tube pre all by itself. Two XLR outs to my console, the delay and light chorus is coming from the pre as well. I use a light compressor from my console to disc just to condition the signal so it gives me a nice -6dB input signal...and that was all I did on that. For the VH type section, that's a Dunlop Rack Wah sort of half open/half closed.
 
It's my fault that Pete is still a part of this..and I'll try to control myself from talking to him from here on out. You notice....he posted quite a few times in this thread and no one commented or gave a crap? Only I responded to him...my bad. I'll do better from here on out. I can't stand trolls but like to fight them. The thing I gotta learn is...they're sitting there laughing at me getting upset and enjoying the entertainment. I'll learn one of these days...
 
-Danny
2013/01/24 07:04:01
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