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  • best technique for making money out of your music?
2012/11/18 10:41:18
offnote
Just wonder what technnique, strategy have you used before you've become rich and famous?
2012/11/18 10:54:06
Beepster
I slept with a lot of fat, greasy record execs.

I don't understand why I'm still poor and unknown.

:-/
2012/11/18 11:52:17
jamesg1213
I wrote Happy Birthday, Auld Lang Syne and all the James Bond themes.
2012/11/18 11:58:36
AT
I have made the kind of music I like.  As far as the rich and famous part - LOTTO.
2012/11/18 12:20:53
Beepster
Joking aside I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how I'm actually going to set myself to sell my tunes. SOCAN rules are weird. Like you can't just send them some recordings and sign up. You have to have them released or published but there is also an option of if you ever played your stuff live that qualifies you but how do you go about proving that? Give them the bar's phone number? I also want to be my own publisher but those rules are even wackier. Add to that I'm no longer involved in any bands and the ones I have been in that actually released stuff... well the one wants nothing to do with copyrighting and the other I haven't been in contact with for well over a decade and I only have partial credit for like one of the songs (even though I busted my arse fixing all their old material).

Then how do I sell it? Amazon? I don't have the money to manufacture on my own (yet) and even if I did how do I distribute it? Just lots of craziness. It's gonna take a while for me to make all the appropriate phone calls to get it sorted out. I'd like to get an entertainment lawyer on my side or study entertainment law myself if possible but the former costs money and the latter costs valuable time I could be producing music with.

Big scam IMO. It was a lot simpler when I just tore up stages and left it at that.
2012/11/18 19:50:01
BenMMusTech
Beepster


Joking aside I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how I'm actually going to set myself to sell my tunes. SOCAN rules are weird. Like you can't just send them some recordings and sign up. You have to have them released or published but there is also an option of if you ever played your stuff live that qualifies you but how do you go about proving that? Give them the bar's phone number? I also want to be my own publisher but those rules are even wackier. Add to that I'm no longer involved in any bands and the ones I have been in that actually released stuff... well the one wants nothing to do with copyrighting and the other I haven't been in contact with for well over a decade and I only have partial credit for like one of the songs (even though I busted my arse fixing all their old material).

Then how do I sell it? Amazon? I don't have the money to manufacture on my own (yet) and even if I did how do I distribute it? Just lots of craziness. It's gonna take a while for me to make all the appropriate phone calls to get it sorted out. I'd like to get an entertainment lawyer on my side or study entertainment law myself if possible but the former costs money and the latter costs valuable time I could be producing music with.

Big scam IMO. It was a lot simpler when I just tore up stages and left it at that.

Try these guys http://www.theorchard.com/ you pay a small fee and they digitaly distribute it for you.  They also can do physical distrubtion.  There is also bandcamp and CD Baby (I think) that do a similar thing.  But you know there is no money in selling music at the moment.  Even big stars EG Gaga and her ilk are only selling 1-4 million of their albums.  It sounds like a lot but they have hi overheads.  It's all about touring, my worst nightmare!!
 
Peace Ben
2012/11/18 20:55:21
LpMike75
You sell out and write for music libraries.  Of course, that will probably not address the rich or famous aspect
2012/11/18 21:10:59
Beepster
Right on, Ben. Not really looking make a mint or nothin'. Just a few bucks here and there would be nice, yanno? I've got the time to invest so it's worth a shot. Already have a bit of a fan base from my live days just can't pound those stages anymore. Sucks gettin' old. Cheers.
2012/11/19 04:37:53
mike_321
  I'm not sure about this since unfortunately my music is as of yet nowhere near being good enough that people would actually buy it, but, I'm pretty sure there are many ways of selling your music nowadays? Such as beatport, junodownload... It depends what genre you're working with of course, but you could google that: such as "beatport for metal" and so forth. Another way, I would imagine, would be to send a nicely polished demo to all your favourite record labels and see what feedback you get. Alternatively, try newer more independent start-up labels which might be less picky/give your music the consideration it deserves and work your way up from there thanks to the exposure you'll get from 'your foot being in the door'. Finally, market yourself well by creating some great pages on Facebook and the like and network extensively... That's my (apologies if overly obvious) 2 cents
2012/11/19 15:49:10
Guitarhacker
Hundreds of thousands of artists and bands want the answer to that question. 

With hundreds of thousands of bands and artists all trying to be rich and famous.... chances are really good that more than 99.99% won't be....rich or famous. 

It's possible to place music into libraries and with publishers but again that is not as easy as it used to be either. Nobody wants demo quality stuff anymore. It all has to be record ready and broadcast quality. With all the home studios and the tools we have, the music has gotten better and the bar has gotten higher.  Much higher.

A few years back, at a songwriter's convention, in a country music session talking about pitching to Nashville..... I had the opportunity to hear the "demo" submitted to a recent #1 hit song bu a country super star group. They played the "demo" first and the quality of the demo was so good it could easily have been released on it's own.... the only difference was the intro guitar lick was slightly different and the singer's voice was slightly different from what we were used to hearing on the radio.... it could easily have passed as the radio single by the big artist.... the demo was that good. 

Sell on CD Baby and other sites.... but the key to sales there is promotion. That costs dearly. Gig with your band and sell in the clubs. That's the most reliable way to sell your music to the fans. 

Good luck. 
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