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  • How To? Warm, transparent synth background pads please! (p.2)
2012/11/21 10:08:43
AT
Find a French Horn player.  Warm as a texas afternoon.  In summer.
 
If you must have a synth, Alchemy has some nice pads that move.  More static is some of Dimensions in DimPro, although I use it more for cutting sounds.  I would think reverb and filter cut off would make some nice warm sounds.

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2012/11/21 12:44:24
bitflipper
Quickest path is to get Omnisphere. Then set aside the next three days for stepping through its 8,000+ presets.

Alchemy is also very good for lush pads. U-he's Diva is another.

There are lots of free and cheap pad libraries for Kontakt. Here's a sound designer who's made it a project to post a new Kontakt pad every day for a year, all free to download: Julian Sound Calendar


If you've got serious money to spend, take a look at Sample Logic's product line. At least make a point of grabbing their $5 sample pack for a taste.
2012/11/21 13:06:33
jamesg1213

A lot of the pads in Dim Pro are very usable. I used 'Glass Atmosphere 1' in this:

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2012/11/21 13:11:47
UKJediKnight
Thanks Bit, I'll look into those as well. And that sounds very nice James.
2012/11/21 17:18:42
Jeff Evans
There are a few points about pad sounds. 

There are two types of pad. One is a smoother much less complicated sound but still moving in a slight liquid / detuned manner. These were often generated by synths like Prophet, Oberheim etc. Brass sounding saw waves going through nice filters set to cut off quite low and some filter resonance added for some extra colour.

Other pad sounds can be very layered, complex and dense. These might sound great on their own and are probably best used in that way. They can distract under a vocal and guitar etc.. Absynth is good for these types of sounds.

Two simpler pads can be layered to create a wider slightly more complex sound. Then with just a hint of something like Dimension D you have got a pad sound to die for. Wider stereo pads are good for staying out of the way of material panned centre. A mono compatibility check is important though to see how they sound collapsed down to mono.  

The more the complex the rest of the music is you are trying to put a pad under, the harder it is to hear. Keep the music very simple and uncluttered. Should be a big black backdrop before the pad is added. Even when there is space the best pads are often the simpler sounding ones and turned down low as well. Maximum illusion minimum voltage.

Pads don't have to be drenched in reverb to sound good either. They can be dry as well. Delays are sometimes interesting on them. The ADSR of the volume envelope is critical to getting the pad to fit your music perfectly. I have found very slight amounts of distortion can make a pad sound fantastic.

Watch out for some serious bottom end coming from some instruments. The pad might need some HPF to thin out and tame the bottom end. Especially if there is a bass player present. Let them create the bottom end and it will be more rhythmical.

Use Roland Dimension D where you can! It is perfect for adding depth and increased liquid movement but not distracting. You have a lot of control over various aspects of the liquid movement especially the plugin. 

Analog synths making the pad sounds used to be king in this area but there are a plethora of VST's that can do it too. 

But most of all the most important thing is to play them right when they are most needed so they have the most emotional impact. That is when they work best. Pad voicings are important too. Sometimes root and fifth is all you need. (Even one note at times!) The other chord tones will setup a different vibe.  You have to be careful how many chord colours you are going to drop into them too. They can over power and clutter if abused.    


2012/11/21 21:33:34
mattplaysguitar
Exactly the type of pad I like for my music!

I've tended to use a pretty basic square wave in Z3ta+ with some LP filtering and then some big delays. Pretty simple but comes out warm and mushy. When that doesn't suit, I've just been using orchestral strings (the DSF in DimensionPro) but that's a little more obvious sounding.

For something that really adds some nice emotive interest, the composition of the parts is super important. Even a plain background pad can emotionally (but subtle and not really heard but felt) come to life if written with some interest.

I'm still very new to this so loving the ideas.

Jeff, I'd love some Dimension D. That unit sounds amazing. Is there a good plug that emulates it well?
2012/11/21 22:04:55
The Band19
"How To? Warm, transparent synth background pads please!"

Like this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbMa8g_jV2I


2012/11/22 04:38:22
Kenneth
Seconding Omnispere especially for pad sounds it's a pad monster.

There's so much stuff in there that you'll probably never get though it.

I've had it for 6 months or so and every time I dig though sounds I find something new.

It's an amazingly good synth as well, it even has dsp oscilators, not sample based.

Many users never dig into the synth only part of Omnispere, it can do just about anything without using any samples at all.
2012/11/22 04:58:28
Danny Danzi
mattplaysguitar


Jeff, I'd love some Dimension D. That unit sounds amazing. Is there a good plug that emulates it well?
I know I'm not Jeff, but I've never heard anything come close to DD, Matt. You either need the real unit or the UAD version. I've used both and prefer the UAD myself. It's a great little piece, that's for sure. :)
 
-Danny

2012/11/22 05:44:12
Linear Phase
I hate to sound like a broken record but...   Pro channel, pro channel, pro channel!!  

mmmk?   What you need to do is use the Cakewalk Saturater..   Not the soft-tube one, and then boost with the quad curve eq..  Try the Pure button, and boost the mids like...  "a decibel."

Easy, breezy, cover girl!!!!!!!!!!
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