Not that there's anything wrong with your programmed drums, but I've often thought your stuff would be even better with a real drummer.

jamesg1213
Not that there's anything wrong with your programmed drums, but I've often thought your stuff would be even better with a real drummer.

 
I'm with James here.  Your song writing, playing etc is so strong you really need to find other's to collaborate with. That's the missing link as far as I can see.:D:D

i'd never have anything out,
if i was waiting for a truly excellent drummer to pop up out of thin air!
 

 
life is short.
and i got a lot to say.
and not much time on this planet to do it....
 
and..
 
i've found that 99% of the people that listen to my stuff,
don't know the diff anyway!
 
 
sad, but true
 
 
besides, my drum programming rocks.
imho

batsbrew
i'd never have anything out,
if i was waiting for a truly excellent drummer to pop up out of thin air!
 

 
life is short.
and i got a lot to say.
and not much time on this planet to do it....
 
and..
 
i've found that 99% of the people that listen to my stuff,
don't know the diff anyway!
 
 
sad, but true
 
 
besides, my drum programming rocks.
imho

 
That's a good point (that most people couldn't tell the difference).  I remember in classical guitar there'd be these really atrocious players giving mediocre concerts.  The audiences were *enthralled* anyways.  HAHA  (I'm not trying to imply that your drums are atrocious or mediocre, they're really good.)

batsbrew
well, this is a demo off of a cassette,
 i made on a tascam 688 unit i no longer have.
 
all there is of the demo, is this stereo file.
 
i'll be doing this all over from scratch, rearrangement, new lyric, all that,
so i can start it anytime i want..
 
the thing i DON'T want,
is a standard rock groove, simply sped up...
 
 
i don't use 'tempo maps' when i record,
i write an 'arrangement', as i typically have it already complete in my head.
 
i then write a drum track complete, then start recording to it,
and edit it later, once everything has been written and recorded.
 
 
i could even do a fast paced latin percussion rhythm section, 
even THAT would work..
 

Bat,
 
Definitely understand the limitation of the cassette only recording.  That would prevent the suggestion of posting a drumless version for input:)
 
Also understand your comment about tempo.  What I was suggesting was less about basing your idea on a tempo map and more about making a tempo map of your scratch outline, or however you sketch out your projects, after you have created it.  That way you have a MIDI tempo map that matches your actual performance or vision for the tempo or arrangement.  This gives you the flexibility of adding samples, loops, MIDI, etc.. so they follow you, not you follow them.  You could also use it to audition some MIDI loops or drum loops for ideas or sanity check on different rhythms in this case.    Tempo map gives you the flexibility of using a real drummer and using samples for support, foundation, flourishes, latin percussion as you mentioend, etc.... 
 
Recently picked up a CLA mix project from Slate Digital and the production includes real drums, some sample loops and other random MIDI samples.  They tempo mapped their live performance to allow this MIDI integration after the fact.    I realize everyone has their own methods.   I typically tempo map everything because it gives me flexibility to add MIDI to audio performance or add realism to an otherwise MIDI only performance.  Just recently Tempo mapped the Pink Floyd song Money so I can do a realistic cover of it in the future.   That was a challenge:)
 
Good luck with your remake.   
 

Regards