Effect To Add a Digitalized Sound To Backup Vocal

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Effect To Add a Digitalized Sound To Backup Vocal (p.2)

2012/10/03 09:35:19

Truckermusic

Well here would be my suggestion.

This is a pretty decent utility and it is free!

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/kerovee-by-g200kg

I have used it on several occasions...It can be a bit fiddly but it is fun, it is free and it does work pretty well....

My last suggestion would be if you do use it...(or even if you do not) what every you do, when finished and you have your track to your satisfaction.......apply the effect or boucne it down to your track and save it that way.....

Reason being is if you do not and they come out with a newer version it and you go back to this project it you will find all new settings and have to redo your work all over......if you bounce it or Apply it and then save it your work will then be saved inside your project...

just my 2 cents.
Clifford

2012/10/03 09:47:36

Truckermusic

Beagle

melodyne is another pitch correction software, similar to v-vocal and autotune.

there's also a specific software available to create the auto-tuned effect without having to do it manually (you can probably get the results you want with v-vocal if you work at it manually, but personally I don't know how to do it - it's more than just adjusting the pitch).

here's the software I mentioned which will do it automatically for you
"the T-Pain Effect" by Izotope
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/izotope-the-t-pain-effect

Beagle

V-vocal is very adapt at doing the T-Pain thing....if you buy that Izotope plug in your are then stuck with only one thing it can do.....so for "ME" that is not very cost effective....

With V-Vocal it is very easy......Anderton explains "how to" in his (I think) second video on X1 tricks..... I will look it up at lunch time today and have an answer for you later......but I do know that it is VERY Easy to do in V-Vocal.

Clifford

2012/10/03 09:56:52

Truckermusic

OK I went and listened to that track....very nice layed back track by the way....

I am sure what he did was lay down some bkgnd vocal tracks and then auto tuned them....Then mixed them in very lightly because they are being used as effect more than anything....but it is done well....

So my suggestion would be to take and do several backing track (maybe even in simple harmony like in 3rd's) to the main vox. set up a Auto tune buss and run them thru there...then mix to taste....

Now it was suggested to sing out of key a bit to make the plug in work....the more out of key you sing the harder the plug will work....

and there is a lot of truth to that statement...........however....in this case I would not stray too far with being out of tune....just go slightly and make the plug work.....but work lightly....this way you achieve your auto tune effect but it is not over done like in a T-Pain type of way.......

and then again, maybe that is what you are going for......and if so....you know what to do now....

Clifford

2012/10/03 13:32:45

Truckermusic

Ok
Here are your V-Vocal Steps for Auto Tuning

To use V-Vocal for the auto tune effects

1.     Sing track slightly off key
2.     Insert V-Vocal in track fx bin
3.     Click on “P” Button in the lower left corner for working with pitch
4.     Select whether the song is in Major or Minor Mode
5.     Go to the little keyboard and click on the root note of the song
6.     Place your curser anywhere in the note grid and type “control A” which will then display all note nodes
7.     Twist the sense and Note control knobs fully clock wise
8.     Turn the vibrato knob to zero
9.     Click on correct
10. All notes should now be hard quantized to semi tone intervals
11. Play your Auto Tuned vocal track.

I hope this helps
Clifford

2012/10/03 16:13:27

vanblah

I think what you are hearing are tight harmonies that have been pitch corrected (auto-tune, v-vocal, melodyne, whatever) using a very hard setting. The harmonies sound like they are all done by the same singer so that there is not a lot of texture, but rather a smoothness to them. The parts are also doubled at the very least.

2012/10/04 08:42:03

Guitarhacker

Yup... to my ear, it sounds like they have good harmonies that have been pitch corrected and not just "fixed" but over corrected. The amount of this effect seemed to be very mild in that example.

This is possible to achieve with melodyne. Melodyne is my "go to" pitch correction since it is, when used properly, totally transparent... it leaves no audible artifacts behind.

BUT... when dialed in excessively and manipulation to the other parameters of the blob are used.... formants and pitch drift... you can get a mild auto-tune effect out of it.

The easier FX to use I would assume would be the T-Pain effect or Autotune since both are designed to get this effect right out of the box.

2012/10/04 17:29:00

mattplaysguitar

Yeah you'll want to be tuning this mostly manual I think. You need to reduce the vibrato in the clip to zero, or just about zero. But you can't just use straight auto-tune because the transition between two notes will be too sudden and extra obvious. Naturally when you sing you will glide up to the new note. 100% quantised auto-tune will not glide, it will go there instantly. THIS is the specific T-Pain effect part. This bit is NOT in your song example. So you need to flatten out all notes but maintain original (or close to) transitions between all notes to make it sound smooth. As far as I know, at least in v-vocal (which is plenty good enough for this task), you can't achieve this automatically so it gets a sound like in your song there.

Keep in mind the straight line tool. It may allow you to get better transitions between notes which have the effect on them, but not be too sudden. If I were doing this to a song, I'd do it all manual and it'd probably take a good few hours to perfect it. You'll be listening to each section on loop and will keep adjusting your draws till it eventually sounds like you want it. Not a quick job if you want it perfect like in that song. Auto just doesn't cut it for the slightly more subtle effects.

I would actually suggest singing on key as much as you can for this style. For T-Pain, definitely out of key slightly. It's more subtle in this song. It's all about the reducing natural vibrato to zero, not serious note shifting which is much more obvious.

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