2012/08/12 12:08:32
Chregg
too right it is, love the programming in it, alot of people dont seem to like it for some reason, i think it rocks
2012/08/12 12:11:07
ProjectM
Massive? I thought everyone loved it! I think it's brilliant, easy to get killer sounds from scratch or by tweaking presets. And it's hard to find a better VSTi for live tweaking
2012/08/12 12:13:27
sharke
I'm not really 100% on what dubstep is but I do remember going through the presets that come with Massive and thinking "dubstep....dubstep....dubstep....dubstep......"
2012/08/12 12:22:20
Chregg
@ projectm no lol dubstep lol
2012/08/12 12:49:46
ProjectM
Ah, Get it I'm not a big dubstep fan my self but I appreciate the production technique and steal some ideas every now and again. And there are a few dubstep acts I really like, in particular Borgore.

But I see your point
2012/08/12 16:03:31
twaddle
I'm not sure what is and what isn't dub step but some of what I hear that claims to be is wonderful and some is a pile of old whatsits
but this is great if only for the Dancing  
It doesn't really kick in until about 2 minutes in.

Steve

2012/08/12 16:35:04
bladetragic
You're creating a dupstep track for Sounds of Blackness???  LOL!!!  That's an odd combination to say the least.

Anyway, check UKF Dubstep Youtube channel.  Hundres of dubstep songs there from some of the best of the genre.

https://www.youtube.com/user/UKFDubstep/videos


I will say this, it can be a time consuming process for someone not used to creating that type of music and Sonar is NOT a dubstep friendly program from my brief experience.  There is a LOT of automation involved (assuming you're creating your own sounds and not using samples) and that is one of Sonar's weaker areas.  The broken copy/paste synth automation bug alone will be a pain in the a## and causes more work than necessary. 

Also, the weird way Sonar reads out values on the automation envelopes is an issue since dupstep relies heavily on automating LFO's to sync w/ different note lengths based on the bpm.  Sometimes it will give you the proper readouts like 1/8, 1/16, etc.  Other times it will just give a percentage value.  In the case of creating dubstep you will definitely prefer the former.  Someone w/ more knowledge may know a solution for that one, but I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason to it yet. 

Some good dubstep tools:

- Massive (as mentioned)

- Razor

- Z3ta 2 - if you want some good starting presets that may save you some time check out the Mutant Rebellion & Revenge (both on sale right now) and Xenos Deadly Dubtronica (cheaper option) preset libraries in the Cake store which seem to be geared specifically to that genre.

- Youtube - there are literally hundreds of vids and tutorials on how to create dubstep type sounds and tracks for a variety of different softsynths

- some good distortion/bitcrusher tools will come in handy (there are some good free ones out there)



2012/08/12 16:41:55
DW_Mike
What is Dubstep?

IMO.........Very annoying.
But I'm a drummer and like different beats for my music. YMMV

Mike
2012/08/12 17:38:54
Fog
bottom line is if your faking a genre, it'll stand out a mile.

you need to know how the structure of the tune is for a start, to be dj friendly and even then , well it won't get played out too much if you don't know the right people.

if they are asking for a remix for the sake of a mix that's a different matter.

sure there are tutorials etc.. BUT they are well out of date, in some cases. the trick is to be doing the next thing as early as possible.





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