2012/08/12 20:35:01
Beggars Bridge
  Yeah, we do that one, too. Which bit do you mean? I don't have the problem on that one. The problem is, it's not the high end frequencies that are being lost here, because the cover is of "Duality", where the quiet bit is actually the very low spoken part.
2012/08/12 20:42:32
Beggars Bridge
That last reply was for ChuckC, btw.
2012/08/12 20:46:21
Beggars Bridge
Would it be possible to have some kind of junction box, where my single mic lead goes into it and it has two outputs (say A and B) and there's a footswitch to change between the A and B output, with them going to different inputs on the mixer, set at different volumes? A bit like a footswitch which toggles between two channels of a guitar amp for solos? Would there still be a gain/feedback problem?
2012/08/13 08:32:08
The Maillard Reaction
Yeah, that's possible.

You are going out of your way to make a very simple thing very complicated.

I know you are not doing it on purpose and your questions are sincere, but I suggest you drop back and reflect on how simple your desired outcome is and find a simple solution to get there.



If you really want to switch a mic signal in a floor box we'll have to start talking about buffer amps, relay switches, power supplies, and... etc.

You can get a passive mic splitter... but a mic switcher will make noise if you don't have all that other stuff I started to babble about.

If you really want to switch a mic signal in a floor box then I suggest you shop for one of the very few vocal stomp boxes that are out there. Some of them have really cool effects built in.

I've seen a few, I imagine most of them that I am aware of have been discontinued due to a lack of interest in the market.

If you really wish to go that route then you'll want to search out the latest, greatest version of a vocal stomp box and try it for your self.



I recommend that you choose a simple solution.


best regards,
mike
2012/08/13 08:53:11
Beagle
Beggars Bridge


Would it be possible to have some kind of junction box, where my single mic lead goes into it and it has two outputs (say A and B) and there's a footswitch to change between the A and B output, with them going to different inputs on the mixer, set at different volumes? A bit like a footswitch which toggles between two channels of a guitar amp for solos? Would there still be a gain/feedback problem?


Does this mean you don't have someone running your sound for you?  wouldn't it be simplier just to have the soundman adjust the gain for you?  (serious question - I'm not trying to be a smarta$$).
2012/08/13 11:02:35
Bristol_Jonesey
2012/08/13 12:31:33
Beggars Bridge
Yeah, it would appear I'm making it more difficult than it needs to be. I checked out a few videos of them performing it live and vocalist Corey Taylor delivers it very differently to the recorded versions, and doesn't seem to need any trickery, so I'll go with that. Beagle - yeah, when we're playing somewhere with an in-house PA, this kind of thing can be sorted quite easily, but when we're doing our own sound we don't have anyone extra along to help us, so I'd end up having to run around a lot! And for mike-mccue - Slipknot don't synch. Their shows are raw, real and all the better for it ;)
2012/08/13 13:02:28
The Maillard Reaction

I've sort of been waiting for you to figure out that they don't sound the same live as on the mp3. I thought "whisper louder" was the best advice you were offered.

As far as sync... everybody is pretty much sync'd to that 133Mhz fellow... his outputs can be used to switch just about anything you can dream up.

best,
mike
2012/08/13 15:05:58
Beggars Bridge
Yeah, but it's not really a whisper. It's more of a low talking voice at that point, with a bit of lo-fi distortion added, I think. Not easy to explain, and not easy to project loudly, either. The delivery has to be changed quite dramatically, so that it's not actually spoken but kind of sounds like it is. If you know what I mean. Not sure what you mean by the 133Mhz thing.... over my head, I think.
2012/08/13 15:20:43
The Maillard Reaction
I'll admit that I don't know a whole bunch about slipknot... but I do know a little bit about live singing vocal effects.

A lot of it falls under "just do it."

Here's a vocal I did a year or two ago... it's just a vocal straight into a mic with a tiny bit of compression. Almost all the "effect" is happening between the gut and the mic.

http://harmoniccycle.com/...es/M3lLT%20DoWn_2K.mp3


Now, that's not a whipser, but it is an example of vocal "theatrics"... and I think that's what some of us mean when we speak about "whispering louder".

I think the simple and best approach might be to just go for it and make the sound you want to hear.



Anyways... it's just an opinion.

all the best,
mike



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