Danny Danzi


Once I found a happy medium of me and what I was being taught, then everything opened up just right. You'll see if you ever try it...like I say though, just be careful....if you come back sounding like Barry Manilow, I'm coming after you! Hahahahahaha! :)
 
-Danny

...So you don't wanna hear my version of Copacabana?  LOL

You have a version of Copacabana?   


I'd wanna hear this!!

Sadly....would you believe someone challenged me to sing "Hold on to the Night" by Richard Marx? Yeah...I took the challenge and did it. LOL!!! Didn't turn out too bad considering it was all done on a 4-track cassette tape recorder and bounce after bounce after bounce. I so don't miss those days.

-Danny

I'm going to break Danny's (generally sound) rule about not just posting links and say that this thread is the best thing I have read on the internet about recording and mixing, and is worth more than all the other text on the internet about recording and mixing combined: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=29283

Hey John.... thanks for posting that. I poured over page one then saw that there are over 50 pages when I went to open page two. It seems like it is really going to be a great help. Really.. thanks! This thread is good too!

I have a real strong tendency to over complicate anything I don't understand before I even get into it, so I start out discouraged. Much I have read both here and there have helped me to remember that first it is about the song. I've realized that I really need to learn where all my tracks sit in the frequency spectrum so that I can know whether to boost one thing or cut another to get the desired result... see, I am learning!

Big thanks to Danny too!

Julien

It's a great thread, that one buy Yep. I'll have to have a smash through it again some time. I believe some guys on there have made a summary of all his answers only so if you look near the end you should be able to download a pdf of just the good stuff.

I like this comment he makes on the first page:

"Take a great-sounding CD and record it through your soundcard. Play back the recording. If it still sounds great, then you know that your soundcard is capable of rendering great-sounding recordings. No more blaming the interface.*
Next take the same CD and play it back through your monitors, recording the playback with your favorite mic (this is actually how the earliest records were duplicated). Still sound good? No more blaming the mic, cable, or preamp. If it doesn't sound good, then go back to the above post and make sure that your monitors and room acoustics are up to snuff. Even the lowly SM57 should reproduce a pretty accurate picture of whatever you point it at. "

-1  Unfortunately, I can't recommend Yep anymore to help with mixing issues. 

Here's why:

With utmost respect to Matt and Yep, I feel Yep, while interesting and clever,  became sort of a glorified-troll (know-it-all).  He 'completely abandoned' our forum 2-3 years ago, iirc.

Yep has always been rhetorical ... to lovingly 'hook' us fearful noobs, IMHO.  Then his statements have often left me hanging, becoming oversimplified, salesman-like, and swerving, like: 

"Here's the secret to golden ears" ... "anyone can do it"
... "listen at low volumes" ... "
... "but it requires a certain amount of careful, educated, practiced listening"

(LOL!  NOT!)

(In reality, Golden ears are rare and complex: They are rock-star singers and producers themselves:  They perform multiple instruments with strong conviction and vibe.  Such individuals sacrifice their time to listen for others, have great patience, great love, innate talent, and are compulsive composers who love music and art on numerous levels.  They don't troll for attention.  Their songs are extremely sincere and have message-hooks and vibe that edify others.)

Many worship Yep here and on the Reaper forum.  JMO/IMHO.  Can Yep even sing?  Who knows?

Also, I'm afraid Yep's lingo is old school; a has-been artist of sorts; and/or a performance driven guitarist who appreciates little about sampling and dancing, etc.,

... who never listened to your/my recordings, never produced anything public, nor collab'd with any of us.  Please prove me wrong (any of you) ... and I will retract my observations as false witness.

IOWs, there are too many *teachers*, like Yep, who talk the talk but never walk the walk.  OTOH, Yep did love dialogue, all of us have loved Yep at one time or other.

Now I know many of you believe you love Yep, so you can hand-wave me as an trolling idiot who knows nothing at all (LOL).

A better solution, IMHO:

Without trying to patronize anyone, my mixes seem to benefit greatly via dialogues, collaborations, "ears" (not necessarily golden-ears) ... with many of own proven veteran teachers, friends, etc. (and even my enemies) here ... but those who are decent enough to post their music, whose music we can hear, feel, taste, and touch:

Like Bit, Robbie, RLD, NoHow, TruckerMusic, Reece, Larry&James, MGH, Yoyo, Danzi, Bat, Matt, Herb, Jeff, Jon, Yoropal, Julianna, Ben (yes Ben) and all the FAITHFUL listeners/singers on songs-forum, etc., etc.  

Note: I'm always willing to try to collab or dialogue with any of you ... just PM me.

Philip


-1  Unfortunately, I can't recommend Yep anymore to help with mixing issues. 

Here's why:

With utmost respect to Matt and Yep, I feel Yep, while interesting and clever,  became sort of a glorified-troll (know-it-all).  He 'completely abandoned' our forum 2-3 years ago, iirc.

Yep has always been rhetorical ... to lovingly 'hook' us fearful noobs, IMHO.  Then his statements have often left me hanging, becoming oversimplified, salesman-like, and swerving, like: 

"Here's the secret to golden ears" ... "anyone can do it"
... "listen at low volumes" ... "
... "but it requires a certain amount of careful, educated, practiced listening"

(LOL!  NOT!)

(In reality, Golden ears are rare and complex: They are rock-star singers and producers themselves:  They perform multiple instruments with strong conviction and vibe.  Such individuals sacrifice their time to listen for others, have great patience, great love, innate talent, and are compulsive composers who love music and art on numerous levels.  They don't troll for attention.  Their songs are extremely sincere and have message-hooks and vibe that edify others.)

Many worship Yep here and on the Reaper forum.  JMO/IMHO.  Can Yep even sing?  Who knows?

Also, I'm afraid Yep's lingo is old school; a has-been artist of sorts; and/or a performance driven guitarist who appreciates little about sampling and dancing, etc.,

... who never listened to your/my recordings, never produced anything public, nor collab'd with any of us.  Please prove me wrong (any of you) ... and I will retract my observations as false witness.

IOWs, there are too many *teachers*, like Yep, who talk the talk but never walk the walk.  OTOH, Yep did love dialogue, all of us have loved Yep at one time or other.

Now I know many of you believe you love Yep, so you can hand-wave me as an trolling idiot who knows nothing at all (LOL).

A better solution, IMHO:

Without trying to patronize anyone, my mixes seem to benefit greatly via dialogues, collaborations, "ears" (not necessarily golden-ears) ... with many of own proven veteran teachers, friends, etc. (and even my enemies) here ... but those who are decent enough to post their music, whose music we can hear, feel, taste, and touch:

Like Bit, Robbie, RLD, NoHow, TruckerMusic, Reece, Larry&James, MGH, Yoyo, Danzi, Bat, Matt, Herb, Jeff, Jon, Yoropal, Julianna, Ben (yes Ben) and all the FAITHFUL listeners/singers on songs-forum, etc., etc.  

Note: I'm always willing to try to collab or dialogue with any of you ... just PM me.

 
That almost brought me to tears Philip, you are a true scholar and a gentleman.  I wish I could say more but I think I don't need to with you.
 
Hugs and Peace Ben

He may or may not be able to sing and you think his lingo is old school? That's your criticism? 

Whatever. 

John T:  that's not what I got out of Philip's post.  those were just secondary complaints, the main complaint Philip made was:

Yep has always been rhetorical ... to lovingly 'hook' us fearful noobs, IMHO.  Then his statements have often left me hanging, becoming oversimplified, salesman-like, and swerving, like: 

"Here's the secret to golden ears" ... "anyone can do it"
... "listen at low volumes" ... "
... "but it requires a certain amount of careful, educated, practiced listening"

or in other words:  he didn't ever really give practical, real life answers.

I don't necessarily agree with Philip on this completely.  Yep did give some good practical advice.  I have some of his advice on compression and recording vocals on my website.  But I do see where Philip is coming from on some things that yep didn't really explain.

Philip


-1  Unfortunately, I can't recommend Yep anymore to help with mixing issues. 

Here's why:

With utmost respect to Matt and Yep, I feel Yep, while interesting and clever,  became sort of a glorified-troll (know-it-all). 

Well, any guy that would title his mega-post "Why your recordings sound like @$$" certainly has the know-it-all part down cold!


After reading what Philip wrote, he did cause me to reconsider Yep some. While I don't doubt that much of what he knows is indeed true, he is so jaded that he can't really explain it anyone other than those on his knowledge level. Thus, for everyone else it comes across as confused and patronizing.


And there are tons of know-it-alls on the X1 forum who seem to know everything about recording, yet their own work (if they ever bother to post it) is shockingly amateurish. And I mean I was completely shocked in a few cases. Being not much more than an advanced hobbyist myself (I make a couple bucks here and there), I still would never spout off so much, pick fights over how right I am, and then produce such slapdash crap. It is embarrassing.

But that's the Internet for ya.