And that is what it is all about, I think James. We all have our own ways of doing things, none of them are wrong. It is about having fun, first and foremost, in either the creation or consumption process. And only each of us as individuals can decide what that is for ourselves. And like most things in life, we get back what we put into it.

Since a few members (no, I'm not going to name them) have lamely ignored the time I took to listen and then comment on their songs, I've just about stopped frequenting the songs forum. And I use to do quite a bit of listening and commenting. I still visit from time to time but rarely listen to any of the regular posters anymore and when I do..., I don't comment or keep it very light. It's my loss as I use to enjoy it tremendously but to tell you the truth, these members I'm referring to above can shove it where the sun don't shine..., and then twist it counterclockwise until they choke. There, I said it, proudly and publicly. 

Like I said, I can't be doing with analyzing it...

"foxwolfen"
And like most things in life, we get back what we put into it.

Really? 

Alegria


Since a few members (no, I'm not going to name them) have lamely ignored the time I took to listen and then comment on their songs, I've just about stopped frequenting the songs forum. And I use to do quite a bit of listening and commenting. I still visit from time to time but rarely listen to any of the regular posters anymore and when I do..., I don't comment or keep it very light. It's my loss as I use to enjoy it tremendously but to tell you the truth, these members I'm referring to above can shove it where the sun don't shine..., and then twist it counterclockwise until they choke. There, I said it, proudly and publicly. 

So..you're denying yourself the pleasure of doing something you enjoy, because of a perceived slight by unknown person(s), who will have no idea that they're supposed to be 'shoving it'.

"jamesg1213
So..you're denying yourself the pleasure of doing something you enjoy

I'm not denying myself anything at all. The "Songs" forum is certainly not the only place where to have a listen. 

"jamesg1213"
 ... because of a perceived slight by unknown person(s)

It's not perceived, I can guarantee you that.

"jamesg1213"
... who will have no idea that they're supposed to be 'shoving it'.

Whether "THEY" have an idea or not of what they're suppose to do is really not my concern, but the therapeutic benefits have already been felt. Quite a load just came off my chest. 

Positives all round then, excellent.

Interesting choice of words James. 

I may be guilty of offering a lot of engineering advice, but seriously:
if the song doesnt do it for me, should I say nothing? Offer false praise?

If the singer croaks like a dying frog, they probably know it. They don't need me to tell them. They also don't need me telling them they sing like an angel.

Here is where I am coming from:
After a while, one pretty much knows the extent you can expect from regular posters, both in execution level and genre. And it is a pretty "giving" group. Even if it is not your cup of tea, don't they deserve something back? So instead of saying "great song, could listen all day" and be lying through your teeth, you can help them out with what you're hearing, and offer little ideas to make it better sonically. I much more want critical responses then praise.

As for the song itself: most times it is posted completed. You can offer ideas on arrangement (which having a DAW is not so hard to mute instruments or add an element), or on the mix. But the song is done...not many will take advice on moving choruses or changing keys or deleting intros or recording new melodic ideas because they have poured blood sweat and tears into it and THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT. I get so many good ideas for my tunes from the Forum and I still rarely have the inclination to re-do it. Always be moving forward is my policy.

I listen to songs and try...HAH!! ...to give some feedback..such as THAT is.


I am not a music critic by any means. Nor do I, hopefully, come off as one...if anything my so-called commentary should be seen as something from a hobbyist...