2012/05/17 12:52:59
Danny Danzi
Jonesey, I'm just warming up! LOL! Actually, I've been rendering files for hours on all my power boxes and can't do much else on this little pc...so you're stuck with me! Hahaha! Actually, I'm going home now...honest I am!

Reece: you're welcome brother. Mail me anytime and we can talk more. :)

John T: I couldn't agree more. Some guys make that work and the science makes them better. I actually support that and respect it. I really do as much as I may sound anti-science. To me, I don't care how we get from point A to point B as long as we get there with an end result we're happy with. Theory, no theory, pots and pans, good gear, bad gear, none of it matters to me really as long as we can high 5 at the end of the session with happiness and the material sounds the way it should.

Funny story for you. I had a guy come into my studio last week with the weirdest guitar rig I had ever seen. I'm telling you man, this dude literally had every pedal you could name all on one board that he made himself. I never saw so many pedals in my life. I kid you not, there had to be 30 or more of them. I stopped counting after 15 because I kept on losing my place. They were sideways, backwards, any way he could make them fit on this board. It was just...unreal.

So you know...the first thing I'm thinking is, I'm going to be welcomed by a hiss sandwich followed by a 60 cycle hum hoagie, degraded signal and cats in a meatgrinder guitar tone. I was seriously sitting there in awe because I had never seen anything like this before. It took the dude about 20 mnutes to set all this stuff up. Now the moment of truth...

He turns on the amp, hiss, hum, oh man, I just shook my head. Before I said a word, he says "let me go check a few things". He goes out to the live room, reaches into his bag and hooks up 3 more stomp boxes! LOL!!! He comes back in and says "oops, forgot to hook a few things up....we should be good now." I'm sitting there in disbelief....then he plays. The tone is awesome!! LOL!! No noise, no hum, no artifacts, it literally made me smile to where I started laughing out loud and had to apologize because I couldn't believe what I just saw and heard.

Apparently, he forgot that he had taken some of the pedals out for something else and when he first fired up, the chords were hot and not plugged in. So of course that's going to make some noise. When he plugged in the missing devices, the chain was complete. How he made that sound like it did (with a 5150 of all amps which are kinda noisey imho) is beyond me. But the moral of the story is...it doesn't matter how bad something looks or how you get there...as long as you get there with good results...and we wound up with excellent results considering I thought this was going to be a horrible day. LOL!

-Danny
2012/05/17 13:32:30
hockeyjx
Danny,

I still got an old ADA/Quadraverb/MosValve rig from TMP in Berlin that works like a champ. Sad that when I gig out, the equipment is older than the bartenders/servers at the bar :(

And for the record on earlier posts in this thread, you have always been always a classy person... even in the South Jersey scene that was ripe with phonies.
2012/05/17 13:46:40
Danny Danzi
hockeyjx


Danny,

I still got an old ADA/Quadraverb/MosValve rig from TMP in Berlin that works like a champ. Sad that when I gig out, the equipment is older than the bartenders/servers at the bar :(

And for the record on earlier posts in this thread, you have always been always a classy person... even in the South Jersey scene that was ripe with phonies.

I still got some of that stuff too! ADA Pitchtraq, Quadraverb 1 and 2, loads of other old stuff that would make you laugh. My live rig looks like that dude's pedal board I mentioned...only worse because it's rack gear. LOL!
 
Aww man, thanks a lot. That's really kind of you. I know we hung out at all the same places but I don't think we ever spoke other than in passing? Didn't I do a show with you at G. Wilikers or something one time? Are you still in NJ? I got a gig at a little place in Pennsville Friday night called AJ's if you're not doing anything. Mixed cover set and a full blown old VH set. I'm in PA on Saturday doing a benefit show for our troops (USO) in Levittown at Falls Twp Community Park if that's closer. I think we go on at like 3 pm. I can't remember if you moved or not...sorry. Anyway, thanks again hockey..much appreciated brother. :)
 
-Danny
2012/05/17 13:57:52
trimph1
Danny Danzi


hockeyjx


Danny,

I still got an old ADA/Quadraverb/MosValve rig from TMP in Berlin that works like a champ. Sad that when I gig out, the equipment is older than the bartenders/servers at the bar :(

And for the record on earlier posts in this thread, you have always been always a classy person... even in the South Jersey scene that was ripe with phonies.

I still got some of that stuff too! ADA Pitchtraq, Quadraverb 1 and 2, loads of other old stuff that would make you laugh. My live rig looks like that dude's pedal board I mentioned...only worse because it's rack gear. LOL!
 
Aww man, thanks a lot. That's really kind of you. I know we hung out at all the same places but I don't think we ever spoke other than in passing? Didn't I do a show with you at G. Wilikers or something one time? Are you still in NJ? I got a gig at a little place in Pennsville Friday night called AJ's if you're not doing anything. Mixed cover set and a full blown old VH set. I'm in PA on Saturday doing a benefit show for our troops (USO) in Levittown at Falls Twp Community Park if that's closer. I think we go on at like 3 pm. I can't remember if you moved or not...sorry. Anyway, thanks again hockey..much appreciated brother. :)
 
-Danny

I hope you have a warehouse!! 


I get a lot of information out of your posts...everytime you post something I'm finding stuff in there that I am looking for ...


Good work!!
2012/05/17 14:18:06
hockeyjx
Actually we did play a few times together and I remember us talking on more than a couple of occasions. But I was younger and more impressionable, so I remember more about those days 

I'm in Atlanta now, have been for a while, otherwise I'd be out there.

Were you at the Bonnie's Reunion in 2004 by chance?



2012/05/17 16:29:37
bapu
Danny,

You taught me a lot and one day I'll learn more from you (when the resources are there) but until then the contents of this thread have given me even more to build on what you've taught me so far.

Thanks for all you do.
2012/05/17 18:17:19
dmbaer
Danny Danzi

I'm actually going to be out there [the West Coast] either this summer or by the fall.

What part?  Do you know yet?
2012/05/17 18:31:44
Rimshot
Great post to all.  Danny - you are right on.  I do post alot of songs and try to give honest comments to others that I think will help.  I think when we do that, we should try to be helpful without being discouraging.  As you said, someone really mentored you and brought you up many levels.  More than one person has done that for me also even though I have a long way to go!

You offer a ton of value Danny and as you have stated, others do too. 
It's the "meaningful contribution" that matters most to me - and maybe not from the most experienced person.  At times, and not too often, I have seen comments by really good artists with great sounding tracks that didn't seem helpful at all to the Op.   On the otherhand, there are some with lessor skills that can be right on the mark.  So I think it boils down to if you care and have something constructive to add based on experience (like you said) and not just the armchair comment.

However, if someone at your level chimes in, all the better for the rest of us. 

Thanks for your input on many levels. 

Jimmy

2012/05/17 19:09:23
BenMMusTech
My one and only commment and defense:
 
Everybody asks why I when into a diatribe over what Danny said, and notice how I use the word diatribe :meaning:ironic or satirical criticism.  So not as Danny has taken it which was an attack on his soul.  This is first what Danny wrote which made me believe his inference was aimed at me:
 
Rule of thumb 2: If you can't go into detail to tell someone how, when, or why to fix something while having the right recipe that REALLY works, have the ability to deliver the right description while in the right frame of mind like a normal human being with a pulse and a sense of compassion, do us all a favor and don't post anything negative. Actually, don't post anything at all...especially if someone is really crying out and trying to learn. All you'll do is further confuse them with your infinite...ummm...whatever you want to call it but make no mistake, it is NOT wisdom. Mods should ban you for drama and for being an attention prostitute that doesn't care for anyone but themselves packing this forum with garbage...post after post.

Sharing links on the subject further confuses people. If you can't tell it in your own words in a language that an unexperiencied person can understand, don't bother wasting the space. If you do this and then try to be intimidating on top of it, how about just don't? I have a degree in hearing. The scope of my hearing test says "you suck and quite well I might add...so well in fact, you are nearly at the engulf stage".

I can explain something in one long post that *most* people will understand way better than your stupid, boring, cop of another persons findings that sound spoken in a language other than English. In school that was known as "Cribbing". Don't let the net fool you, you're still not a good engineer no matter how good your search engine leads you to believe.

The day your friends start telling the truth is the day they really become your friends. We got enough sugar coating and horsesh!t around here to create our own Candy Land board game. There's nothing wrong with being nice, but for heaven sakes, when someone delivers something that sounds bad and is a Richard Cranium on top of it, don't feed their ego because they are your friend or you feel sorry for them. Just think, if everyone were more honest, we'd not have the creature known as "he whos name we shall not mention". You guys built him, now the rest of us are stuck with him. Thanks.

 
Then there is this:
 
Tip of the day: Don't ever fall into the trap like "those that shall remain nameless and clueless". If you ever don't know something, say you don't know. The people that act like they know everything would be way cooler and welcomed with open arms if they just fessed up that they didn't really know much at all. Instead, we are left with...well, you know the deal there.

Then Philip names me because Philip knows who Danny is talking about, so I suggested to Danny that I had everyright to be here just as much as him, no barbs apart from that, Danny must think that I live in a bubble, if he thinks I don't learn something new everday doing this audio thing.
 
Notice also how I was the first to chime in with no ego and said to BOTR (I wish he would give us his name) hey it takes 10 years of experiments and maybe some school and then listed key jumping off points such as: EQ, Compression and Effects.
I wouldn't even bother with this comment if I wasn't acused of having a massive ego and basicly being told I was a forum wrecker and I should bugger off.  I mean the nerve.  Danny has obviously got passive agressive issues, I'm just plain aggressive.
 
This is the techniques forum and I was putting forward some ideas about there being a third or forth way and here is another thing that all amateurs, hobbyists and pro's alike should be interested in.  The disscussion of ideas. 
 
How dare anyone suggest that we should not disscuss Ideas and that the way we record is set in stone.  Because once again this is the inference that Danny is suggesting.
 
Finally BOTR and this is on topic we need to understand historical perspective, without it we don't know where we have been and we def don't know where we are going.
 
Danny in this thread has pissed on the Mona Lisa, actually criticising people who made what is considered by some one of the finest examples of popular music of all time.  Surely this shows Danny has no artistic perspective at all, very dangerous.  He may know a lot about technique and even that can be questioned when he critiques Bohemian Rhapsody and says and I quote:
 
If my answer is "absolutely not" in my mind, I've matured as an engineer as long as I can do better. I may not be able to write as good or play as good as that band, but in THIS scenario, we're looking at production/quality. I love Queen, but I'd never shoot for the production they got in Bohemian. And...chances are, because of my way of thinking, I might not ever come up with a mix that is as good. Then again...I might come up with something better, you never know. I actually thought of doing that. Replacing the bass, guitar and drums with my own and leaving Freddie sing on it  
 
I'd be seriously questioning any indivdual and their information who said this.
 
Here ended the lesson, I'm off to do what I do best make music, make art and yes stir the pot, hmmm
 
Neb
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