Beagle


I don't understand, tho.  if you're using a "record player" then doesn't it already have the RIAA EQ "undone" as it sends the signal to the output for you to hook up to the speakers?  I can see where this would be a problem if you want to go directly from a turntable into a preamp, but if you're going from a "record player" then it should already have an amplifier in it and should already have the RIAA EQ reversed, right?

Beagle
I am motarded again. 

If you have a record player, I guess that has a preamp.  I was equating record player to turntable.  No turntable worth its salt would ever put a high gain device like a preamp into the same chassis that had an AC motor. That is just begging for 60 cycle hum. 

I am not sure what a record player is other than one of these things.



I am more talking about one of these things

I looked into this a few months back and found that for me to go from my turntable into my Mackie Onyx to PC I would need an RIAA EQ/Pre-Amp.
Most were going for $30 to $70.

Not sure about the record player though as Reece mentioned.

Mike

Yeah the RIAA thing is not that expensive, but without it the LPS will sound - as they say in france - c'est merde!

ok - I can follow that.  but yes, "record players" have preamps in them and they did that all the time.  if you didn't buy separate components, turntable and amplifier, then you got a "record player" usually with RCA and/or terminal block outs for connecting directly to the speakers.

that begs the question, tho, did the amps on the separate components have the RIAA EQ removal?  I guess it would become VERY important that you connected a turntable up to the TURNTABLE input of the amp ONLY or you'd have problems, huh?

and I'm guessing that those USB turntables have the RIAA EQ reversal already built in before the A/D converters to send thru the USB then?

chefmike8888


I looked into this a few months back and found that for me to go from my turntable into my Mackie Onyx to PC I would need an RIAA EQ/Pre-Amp.
Most were going for $30 to $70.

Not sure about the record player though as Reece mentioned.

Mike

Well, technically that's the term that the OP used.  that's why I used it instead of "turntable."  I assume that "turntables" don't have preamps built in and that "record players" do.
well - and looking at his OP again - he uses both terms.  so I'm making everyone confused I guess.  sorry guys.

Beag
The Pre-amps had them. 


Look on the left.  There is a switch for matching the load (pf for Pico Farads), a switch for moving coil or moving magnet/high output moving coil ...

THe RIAA de-equalization or whatever you call that process is done in the preamp. 

I am a stereo nerd.  To me, an amplifier is just raw power and is designed to have a pair into it (from the preamp) and a pair out to the speakers.  Other than being able to deal with low impedance loads (sometimes down to 1 ohm), it really does nothing else.  No volume control.  No tone control.  Just gazindas and gazoutas. 

A Preamp is sort of like a mixer in a recording studio - the master routing control with the appropriate interfaces.  In audio, it is the preamp that would have the RIAA curve stuff in it, though for some odd reason, cassettes and such had the Dolby controls on them  - not the preamps.

An integrated amp/preamp obviously would have the RIAA stuff on it if it was ever going to deal with a turntable signal.

I kind a got technical here, but I want to make sure the OP knows that if there is not an RIAA equalization device in line, he is going to get harsh sounds with no low end.  And he may not be able to get enough gain from his mic pre to amplify the cartridge, depending on whether it is a moving coil (my preference) or a moving magnet. 

Beagle
I too am confused.  I know what I am talking about, but I have no idea if it relates to the OP. 

Who is this Bo you speak of?  He must be a great guy!

Who is this Bo you speak of? He must be a great guy!

 
Prolly a wanker that needs to be banned from the forum?
 
Maybe he meant Bob that sank?
 

actually, I'm glad you brought this up!  this is really good info!  I was not aware of the RIAA EQ and the problems with matching the impedance (although that part I should have realized if I had thought about it).

basically you might have saved this guy from following my advice if he's trying to hook up a turntable to his m-audio dmp-3 directly and caused him to record that way!

and Bo is a great guy!  you should get some! 

Beagle I am too the proud owner of thousands of LPs.  I started converting them to digital using my stereo and an Alesis Masterlink. 

You have to be dedicated.  Nothing automatically inserts tracks where silence is on LPs between songs.  There are sources of getting titles and track info, but it is unfortunately a very manual process. 

I found that recording something to my Masterlink in higher resolution then listening to it a bunch like everyone does with new records is better on the vinyl.  But moving stuff to CDs - I don't have that much time.