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2012/07/13 12:00:30
gat19g
I am trying to do a rock song and I don't own a electric guitar but Sonar came with Guitar Rig so I've been trying to use that. Maybe I'm not setting it up right but what I want is a clean distortion sound and it isn't giving that to me. The sound is a bit muffled and muddy. Is there a way to fix this? What I am doing is putting the amp effect on a synth track with a steel guitar sound from Dimension Pro. Maybe it's the set up?
Any way thanks in advance...
2012/07/13 12:49:30
Rain
gat19g


I am trying to do a rock song and I don't own a electric guitar but Sonar came with Guitar Rig so I've been trying to use that. Maybe I'm not setting it up right but what I want is a clean distortion sound and it isn't giving that to me. The sound is a bit muffled and muddy. Is there a way to fix this? What I am doing is putting the amp effect on a synth track with a steel guitar sound from Dimension Pro. Maybe it's the set up?
Any way thanks in advance...



It can be complicated to get good tones out of a real guitar when using amp sims, so I imagine the trouble setting it up for sampled instrument.

I haven't used guitar patches in Dimension but I would think that if there's any electric guitar sound in there, it would be based on samples of already amplified guitars. If so, it would be quite likely that running the sound of an amped guitar through another amp sim would sound a bit odd or muffled.


2012/07/13 13:23:33
Guitarhacker
I'm not a big fan of the sims for a few reasons.... 

But consider asking a guitar player in the forums for some help.... this place has a bunch who may offer to record it for you. 

Post the song in the songs forum and ask... you never know. 
2012/07/13 14:22:21
gat19g
What I find is that the distortion seems to work in a way that the notes don't work together like on a real guitar they sound separate and it creates a muddy, muffled mess. I wonder if running the audio to a bus and putting effects on the buss would work better.
I'm not an electric guitarist but what it seems to me is that the noise of the steel strings is picked up by the guitar transmitted to the amp and the amp distorts them. So shouldn't Guitar Rig work on a steel string patch?
2012/07/13 14:40:41
Kalle Rantaaho
You say you don't own an electric guitar and that you're not an electric guitar player.
So maybe you just need to take time getting aquainted with Guitar Rig (???). There are quite a few things to set. Also, I'm guessing you have borrowed a guitar for your recordings - are you sure the guitar is OK??
 (It does bother me a bit, though, that you say you don't own a guitar, so that's why you use Guitar Rig instead. You don't mention using a guitar at all.)
SORRY! I missed the part that you're using Dim Pro! My mistake!
2012/07/13 15:10:04
gat19g
I think I finally got something somewhat ok. Its not what I was after but it is acceptable as a guitar sound. I used some noise reduction and a noise gate along with some filters. The extra distortion was taken out and now it sounds much better. Still not what I was after. I was going for heavier rock/metal but it will do I guess.
2012/07/19 11:32:36
Karyn
A lot of the sound for rock/metal is created by how you play, not what you play.  
For example palm muting does more than just damp the strings, it changes harmonic content and the attack sound when the strings are hit.
 The guitar samples in DimPro sound good as samples, but no real guitar sounds like that when it's actually being played.
2012/07/19 13:16:20
Chaos Choir
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