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  • Breaking Musical Stereotypes? ... Overcoming blandness and fakeness (p.13)
2012/07/05 20:05:37
John T
I don't think I know what any of that means.
2012/07/05 20:39:18
Danny Danzi
Philip


John T


Oh right, that. Well, you've posted links to other songs, and there's a whole bunch of your other material in the same place for anyone to find. Not sure how that represents privacy. Anyway, you do in fact have such a song, don't you? If you don't like people being critical of that, maybe writing it, recording it and then putting it on the Internet wasn't the right move. 
 
The fact is you dug into my personal unfinished songs ... what prompted that and why?
 
(nevermind, I forgive it and don't want to make enemies):
 
"all atheists (or evos) are child-molestors" right?  (Wrong!  I never sang that.)
 
Everyone knows I invite false accusations and insults on songs forum ... but techniques forum is not a place to slander one another, my friend.  I hope you don't currently feel I slandered you by my stating you invaded my privacy?
 
BTW, John: You might note that you have quite a strong and sympathetic following here; apparently you're not the only one trying to extole John's excellence amidst John's slanders and/or Philip's slanders.
 
Not trying to change the subject ... but your friends are coming out of the closet, John.  Look at them all!  Hahahahaha!  They gather themselves together: they suddenly love John and what John stands for.  The world loves you, man!  They're cheering you on!  And for what?
 
TBH, I don't know what that is that they stand for ... or what John and Philip stand for.  Don't let them flatter you, John!  Blow them off at once!  Flattery has perverted many biologists and singers alike. 
 
Personally I understand it like this ... its how much you and I strive to love others including our personal enemies ... that will overcome your/my biology and stereotypes. 
 
Consider!  I'll always try to love you while I'm alive, Lord-willing.  It pleased the Lord to take 2 of my beloved horseplaying sons and witness many other foolish deaths this year besides.  All persons are special!  I'm behooved to believe in love and redemption from sin based on universal evidences.  Forgive my loopiness, everyone.
 
I swept that thread (that I quoted) under the rug to not offend you!  You brought it up and forced me into this ... You have NOT offended me.  Bickering comes with this territory.
 
Utmost blessings all!

My sincerest apologies Philip if you felt I was doing any cheering on. I try my best to stay out of the disgreements of others, especially those that are of religious nature...but would never cheer on that you have sung anything about "all atheists (or evos) are child-molestors". I've never heard that, never got that impression of you, think the world of you and would never cheer on anything like that being said about you. I've gotten nothing but sincerity and one of the deepest loves for Christ that I've ever seen in a person as well as real life situations from your lyrics delivered from the heart at all times.
 
So please accept my apology if my praises for John T made you feel that I was cheering the statement that bothered you. That wasn't my intent at all. I've never had any problems with the guy and was just speaking for myself as well as my personal experiences with him that have always been professional and courteous.
 
Again, I'm sorry if anything I said implied cheering or ignoring your feelings. I totally disagree with that statement in quotes when it comes to you and believe it didn't need to be said in my opinion. Then again I know that some people have issues with God and may sometimes get a bit upset with religious material. That's the chance we take with subject matter like that though...so I usually just ignore it as to not start any religious wars. I'm sorry if I offended you.
 
-Danny
2012/07/05 20:51:44
droddey
Danny Danzi


Matt: thanks! Glad you liked it. Yeah definitely try singing your solo lines. You have a good voice so this should be easy for you to do. Do a couple of solo's on that album if ya feel like it...open that big heart and let it all out man. :)

Dean: That's a really good observation. Id be willing to bet all the views are sales and you can count me as one of those people. I usually don't have to download music today because of Youtube. Or, try this sometime...the next time you hear about a band or song etc, type it into your browser followed by "mp3" and see what comes up. I usually get this site with a bumble bee on it that has every mp3 known to man that I can listen to. It's not a file sharing or torrent site though, I promise.

-Danny

I would be willing to bet that it generally both truly reduces sales of real artists (by a very substantial amount) AND inflates the apparent relevance of flash in the pan (or head rolling down the road) acts who get a sudden viral burst of hits.
 
2012/07/05 20:55:51
John T
I don't have any problem with religious material, for the record. I do raise an eyebrow at anyone comparing Richard Dawkins and Charles Darwin to Hitler and Stalin, though. That strikes me at the very least to be somewhat over-heated. This particular song goes on to call scientists "perverts in our schools" and talks about "the children you assault"... this is fairly dodgy stuff, I think. And somewhat low on that much vaunted Christian loving thing.
2012/07/05 21:34:39
droddey
Anyone who knows about Darwin knows that he was hardly a strident radical, and was pretty uncomfortable being painted as some sort of vanguard of humanistic science. He was a pretty low key guy and was just reporting on the huge number of facts that he had accumulated over many years. His ability to provide example after example of evolutionary processes (which he had observed personally) that made his ideas hard to counter. At this point, evolution is a fact, and not worth getting into arguments about. It's very heavily supported at the observational, paleontelogical, and genetic levels.
2012/07/05 22:08:55
michaelhanson
Wow, this sure has strayed far from musical stereotypes since I last checked in on this thread. 

Philip, I think you break musical stereotypes.   You certainly have your own unique style, which I find refreshing. 
2012/07/05 22:23:56
trimph1
It really has kind of strayed a tad dinnit? 


But let me just say a couple of things to this. Being raised in a Christian home as I was we were taught to be tolerant of all view points..even those we were against. My own view on the lyrics mentioned  paints a pretty morose picture of certain types of people that, in my view, are not typical of many in those fields. 


Besides...how dare we, who call ourselves Christian, say what God can, or cannot use, in His creation?


Second thing...I have been hammered with all manner of health issues of recent vintage..including a bone cancer thing I am now engaged with. The doctors I have working with me are all hard working and dedicated to this field...and none of them can be claimed to be 'perverts in our schools'.
2012/07/06 01:27:25
ohgrant
trimph1


It really has kind of strayed a tad dinnit? 


But let me just say a couple of things to this. Being raised in a Christian home as I was we were taught to be tolerant of all view points..even those we were against. My own view on the lyrics mentioned  paints a pretty morose picture of certain types of people that, in my view, are not typical of many in those fields. 


Besides...how dare we, who call ourselves Christian, say what God can, or cannot use, in His creation?


Second thing...I have been hammered with all manner of health issues of recent vintage..including a bone cancer thing I am now engaged with. The doctors I have working with me are all hard working and dedicated to this field...and none of them can be claimed to be 'perverts in our schools'.
 Amen brother, one thing that appeared in the rule book more than once it's certainly not my place to judge and my time is better spent worrying about my own soul than my neighbors. My prayers are with you to recover quickly from the cancer. I hope that doesn't offend anyone. :)
2012/07/06 08:45:12
BenMMusTech
Hey Danny look I'm listening and I hope we can put all the **** behind us. We both have opinions and neither is right nor wrong. Art is subjective. I feel though u judge me on one particular song that yes I should have fixed. 

The one thing we can agree on is leave Philip alone, I'm sorry I went into battle mode with John but its Philip he's having a go at and for some reason I feel pretty protective over him. Same with the song forum and pistole Pete. 

I will listen to you and take on board what u say if u can do the same with me. I'd prefer to work with u than against u. 

Peace ben. 
2012/07/06 09:42:42
michaelhanson
Bravo Ben, I am liking this humbler side of you.

I have been warned, but I have not encountered this "Pistol Pete" phenominon as of yet.  Bluntness can be a good quality, but it is all in the delivery of how you say it. 
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