BenMMusTech


Hey Danny look I'm listening and I hope we can put all the **** behind us. We both have opinions and neither is right nor wrong. Art is subjective. I feel though u judge me on one particular song that yes I should have fixed. 

The one thing we can agree on is leave Philip alone, I'm sorry I went into battle mode with John but its Philip he's having a go at and for some reason I feel pretty protective over him. Same with the song forum and pistole Pete. 

I will listen to you and take on board what u say if u can do the same with me. I'd prefer to work with u than against u. 

Peace ben. 

Yeah bravo here as well, and that's a good deal you've offered that I'll take you up on. It's not that I don't like you, Ben....please don't ever think that. Your passion is insurmountable...that's a plus and no one can ever take that away from a person. However, I'd just like to see some of the stuff you say delivered differently if possible and if you are in need of help on something, don't be afraid to ask instead of playing the "I've mastered this" card, know what I mean? I can really help you as can others mate....but you have to allow us to without being offended or pushing us to the point of using some of the things you say against you. No one wants to do that including me.
 
It's like...and I don't mean to drum up the past, but I remember you were in need of comments and Yoyo went out on a limb to tell you how it really was from a professional view. He's a pretty respected member and doesn't comment in depth on everything that gets put out on here. I felt he was blunt, but was honest and I felt the same as he did. Well, you didn't take to it too well and I can understand that feeling as I too sometimes get defensive with "my babies". But there comes a time where when we get feedback from credible people that are putting out really good stuff, that they can really help us and continue to give us feedback as long as we are accepting of it, know what I mean? I would be willing to bet you may not hear from Yoyo again due to him not wanting to get into an arguement with you. I'm sure he didn't mean to offend you...but like him, I shared his views.
 
It was like "well I have this degree, that degree, mastered this, and great at this" and well, honest man, it just sounded bad to hear over and over. So we decide to check out this guy speaking all this stuff and when what we hear doesn't match the passion in the text, it makes it sound more like ego than talent. Can you understand where I'm coming from? I also chimed in there and was overly blunt with you as well...but part of my lack of compassion was due to hearing how great you were at everything. If you would have delivered yourself in a less elite sounding approach, me or James (or anyone else that may have given you blunt and negative comments) would have never come off that way. Well, then there're Pete...lol...no one can make him compassionate...but he does have a bit of merit sometimes. :)
 
Anyway, I have no ill will towards you man. I want to see us all get along. I WANT to see you push out killer production and win people over with your art and knowledge. I also think your new personality on the forum has been great so far and hope you continue to stay this way. It totally changes peoples opinions of you fr the better...whether you care about that part or not...but I would. No one can deny your passion for this or you'd not be here. Don't ever change that...just maybe alter the way that passion gets delivered. :)
 
As for Philip, totally with you there. He's become one of my best friends over a short period of time. But that said, he's never interfered in the battles I've gotten in with others and I feel the same way. I try not to get involved with other things unless something really gets to me. Like the time I felt the need to go out of my way and address a post Pete made about Warren's tune I believe it was. I could have really got myself into a battle there...but thankfully it didn't happen. But I still felt I had to stick up for Warren on that because I thought ole Pete was just way too abrasive in that situation. Same pretty much with what he said on your tune...but he was way less abrasive there, then lost his way again. LOL! I think that guy is one of our regular forum members taking the p!ss if you want my honest opinion. I can almost feel who it is...but can't quite place him. LOL!
 
Well, keep up the good work Ben. Sorry if anything I've ever said to you offended you. Sometimes MY passion gets the best of me...but even with some of my negativity towards you, I've always tried to give some helpful advice as well...so it's not like I've been sitting here hating you or hoping you fail in anything. As a matter of fact, truth ne told...when you were going through your tough times, I kept you in my prayers as I do all the forum people that are having hard times. We may argue, fuss and fight, but at the end of the day, I wouldn't turn my back on anyone from this forum that pm'd me in need of help or had a problem no matter how heated we may have gotten in the past. All the best brother...*hugs*
 
-Danny

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It really has kind of strayed a tad dinnit? 


But let me just say a couple of things to this. Being raised in a Christian home as I was we were taught to be tolerant of all view points..even those we were against. My own view on the lyrics mentioned  paints a pretty morose picture of certain types of people that, in my view, are not typical of many in those fields. 


Besides...how dare we, who call ourselves Christian, say what God can, or cannot use, in His creation?


Second thing...I have been hammered with all manner of health issues of recent vintage..including a bone cancer thing I am now engaged with. The doctors I have working with me are all hard working and dedicated to this field...and none of them can be claimed to be 'perverts in our schools'.

My utmost sympathy and apologies!  This thread is derailing!  Let it go John T!  Stop trolling!
 
@ Ben and Everyone ... this battle is strictly between John T and me.  John is digging deeply to falsely acuse me.  Why?  Only he knows!  He seems in complete denial. 
 
John's slanders and trolling have no place here.  (I'll let the moderators decide)  Abeit, I do thank you and encourage you all to continue.  I believe we are all created equal here!  None of us are "fitter" than the next.  I also appreciate Ben's uniqueness, your musical excellence I do love.
 
@ Danny:  There are serious dark forces slinging around that only a few understand.  You've not offended me.  John has a soul and is in the image of God ... just like Ben and everyone else is in the image of God, IMHO.  The fact that you showed him sympathy I highly admire (as do others).
 
OTOH, It would kill me to lose your collab help and lifelong friendship.  Please don't let John's slanders mar our proven friendship.  Btw, your last collab, Ascension, is so awesome, I can't begin to iterate.  I'll try to solicite your help this eve again ... if thats OK.
 
@ Triumph: I, too, am a doctor here in the US, an Alabama podiatrist that works about 20 hospitals and nursing homes ... 20 years.  I am Dr. Philip M. Traynor.  Your sufferings strike me deeply.  No Alabama doctor is "a pervert in the schools".   No Alabama physician I know preaches evolution, atheism, etc.  Though we have bad days, we try to be compassionate.
 
To help clear the clouds for Chappell, Triumph, and everyone ... impressed by John T's trolling:
 
Evo-trash was written and sung immediately after Amy Bishop, an evo-biology professor in my home-town, Huntsville ... murdered 3 fellow evo-biology professors at my University of AL, UAH ... where I did my pre-med courses  (Do your Google searches guys on "Amy Bishop") ... about 2 years ago.  Politicians apparently hushed her "evolutionism" as the UAH biology department requested.
 
When someone murders my collegues, I still have my freedom of speech!
 
 
Interestingly, UAH evolutionisim was pretty headstrong for the last 20 years ... about as perverted as it could get. These fanatic proto-evolutionists publicly denounced Christianity at UAH and persecuted Christians aspiring to become doctors (as validated by Ben Stein's movie "Expelled")
 
And this Dawkin's evo-queen ... was about to preach to families on Evolution-Sunday ... at a Huntsville church dedicated to reconciling Christianity (Jesus Christ) with evolution (aka, Richard Dawkins). 
 
I'm not the only one who appalled to instill children with false science and atheism.  As a physician and christian, I am forced to believe children are great miracles that are made in the image and likeness of God: 
 
They are in the image and likeness of God ... nothing less!  What do you think John T?
 
Neither children nor our Lord did 'beneficially mutate' from lower forms.
Alabama is not the only place that is appalled by perverted evo-theories (essentially hopeful-monster theories) in our classrooms.
 
But you all judge what you wish to believe.  For you Christians and/or biologists who seriously wish to further understand and/or debate creation vs. evolution, I'll refer you to http://www.evcforum.net/; Also, that may be a great place to insult my song Evo-trash, John!
 
John T, you've been reported for trolling, privacy invasion, and slander!
 
Btw all, Swing Me Higher! is now posted on songs forum.

Philip
@ Danny: There are serious dark forces slinging around that only a few understand. You've not offended me. John has a soul and is in the image of God ... just like Ben and everyone else is in the image of God, IMHO. The fact that you showed him sympathy I highly admire (as do others). OTOH, It would kill me to lose your collab help and lifelong friendship. Please don't let John's slanders mar our proven friendship. Btw, your last collab, Ascension, is so awesome, I can't begin to iterate. I'll try to solicite your help this eve again ... if thats OK.

 
Thanks for the reply. No worries, you're stuck with me for life. :) When two people disagree about something, I try not to ever take sides even if both parties are friends. The only thing that would ever mess with our friendship would be the two of us deciding to part amicably. So never worry about me Philip. The friendship we share will never be decided on a forum confrontation that involves others. I would think you and I have a good enough understanding of one another to talk in private before anything like that ever came about. As I said...you're stuck with me. :) Looking forward to working with you when you are ready. :)
 
-Danny

What do I think? Honestly? I think you sound like a raving loony. I'll leave it there.  

"Leave it there?"  Hahahahaha!  Promises promises!  We'll see if you "leave it there".

Thanks Danny!  The fact that you're not ashamed of me, in public view, deems you as my friend for life.

Thanks to all of you who PM'd me with your positive support and warnings about this dude --^.  Again, its been reported.

This coming from a guy who writes some pretty weird lyrics: I will say it is a dangerous and utterly inartistic thing to take some words from a song and try to turn it into some sort of psychoanalysis.
I have written so much stuff that totally is disconnected from my personal feelings that it is ridiculous.

^ Yeah, but you know the stigma with today's music? But who's to say they were/aren't doing the same thing.

Lyrics do not need to be meaningful to mean something!

Kesha, Rebecca Black, Lady Gaga, etc. 

It's that stigma though.