jamesyoyo


Oh please. The Bieber kid can sing. When every other popular act uses the T-Pain effect, if you wanna sell records, you go with the flow. 

See man, that's the thing. I think he can sing also....I just don't see the need to do the T-Pain effect "for the sake of". The dude will sell albums if he burps for the entire thing...if you CAN sing, there's no need for that robotic, fake effect...but that's just me. I mean, is there some big unknown suit in the music business that frames out what people have to do or use to be successful? Some dude in a suit behind a desk that says "everyone in pop must use the auto-tune effect or they'll never be a star"?
 
I doubt that's the case. Something like that should never make or break an artist is my point. I'd rather continue as a nobody than to hear my voice with that effect all over the place. That's probably a bad business decision, but then again, I've been a pretty successful businessman for many years and have always survived. The keys to me are survival, happiness and doing what YOU believe in.
 
As for Silly Love Songs...totally agree. The only laughin' there is the happy vibe the tune brings on. :)
 
-Danny

jamesyoyo


Oh please. The Bieber kid can sing. When every other popular act uses the T-Pain effect, if you wanna sell records, you go with the flow.

I am somewhat mystified by the energies expended by musicians to denigrate whatever is considered trendy pop music. This disturbing trend has been noticeable since the 70s. I  indulged it a bit when I was in college, but only really to make me feel cooler than I was.

I love pop music, always have. One of my all time favorite tunes? Silly Love Songs. Go ahead and laugh, but if that isn't a near perfect pop song, I don't know what is.

And what's wrong with that? ;)

I'd like to know...because here I go...again....:) It is a good song for sure :)


I had to take my niece and nephew to see JB awhile back in Toronto...and he can defo sing...I wish I could sing as good. 


I just think that the autotune thing that occurred on the other thread is not repeated here....

Danny Danzi

jamesyoyo


Oh please. The Bieber kid can sing. When every other popular act uses the T-Pain effect, if you wanna sell records, you go with the flow. 

See man, that's the thing. I think he can sing also....I just don't see the need to do the T-Pain effect "for the sake of". The dude will sell albums if he burps for the entire thing...if you CAN sing, there's no need for that robotic, fake effect...but that's just me. I mean, is there some big unknown suit in the music business that frames out what people have to do or use to be successful? Some dude in a suit behind a desk that says "everyone in pop must use the auto-tune effect or they'll never be a star"?
 
I doubt that's the case. Something like that should never make or break an artist is my point. I'd rather continue as a nobody than to hear my voice with that effect all over the place. That's probably a bad business decision, but then again, I've been a pretty successful businessman for many years and have always survived. The keys to me are survival, happiness and doing what YOU believe in.
 
As for Silly Love Songs...totally agree. The only laughin' there is the happy vibe the tune brings on. :)
 
-Danny

I'm guessing most folks on these boards don't have tween children. As I do, I am constantly exposed to the latest stuff driving in the car or blasting out of my kitchen PC. So I feel pretty comfortable to say that I am really up on the Pop Music scene. That being said, I hear that T-Pain effect everywhere. A lot of it is super subtle now, little drops and runs and not so obvious. And I agree in ten years any current song that uses it will totally be "off a time".

James we agree on one thing finally Paul McCartney and silly love songs is def a great perfect pop song.

Can't agree with this beiber view though.  He is just not in the same league.

I'm pretty up with pop music as well I make myself watch the video music shows in oz and to me it's misfiring the music that is.  There is pockets of good stuff, I liked a track by arcade fire, I've started to like some of muse, I even liked rihanhas umbrella a few years ago. Now that was a good pop song.

But there is so much crap it's hard to sort through it all.

Peace

Ben check this out if you get a minute. Totally raw and without any real coloration. Not a fabulous performance, but I think he can sing quite well. A bit too much of what I call "vocal acrobatics" (you know, the thing our black brothers and sisters do so well that sometimes shouldn't be attempted by anyone else) but he's definitely a decent singer in this which is recent. I hear a little bit of delay and some verb, but nothing that is hiding or masking him. See what you think if you get time. :)

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...ehind-the-scenes.jhtml]http://www.mtv.com/news/a...ehind-the-scenes.jhtml

-Danny

BenMMusTech

 But there is so much crap it's hard to sort through it all.
 

Come on! You can't seriously say that that 'Call Me Maybe' song isn't crap!!!!!! Bahahaa


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic


Though I think this version may be better..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIfbghHdG1s

Though I think this version may be better.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIfbghHdG1s

 
*gulp* I never knew the Dolphins cheerleaders were THAT smokin' hott! *switches teams*

Danny Danzi


Ben check this out if you get a minute. Totally raw and without any real coloration. Not a fabulous performance, but I think he can sing quite well. A bit too much of what I call "vocal acrobatics" (you know, the thing our black brothers and sisters do so well that sometimes shouldn't be attempted by anyone else) but he's definitely a decent singer in this which is recent. I hear a little bit of delay and some verb, but nothing that is hiding or masking him. See what you think if you get time. :)

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1687837/justin-bieber-live-behind-the-scenes.jhtml]http://www.mtv.com/news/a...ehind-the-scenes.jhtml

-Danny

Sorry haven't had a chance to listen to this till this morning danny.  Well my first impression was it sounded a little James Taylor in places (thats a compliment).  Def he should lay off the vocal acrobatics, he goes a bit pitchy when he does the vocal acrobatics.
 
The other thing I noticed is his voice has a long way to go in terms of maturity, you can hear that it needs to stretch a little if that makes sense.
 
What I would like is to hear a bit of uniqueness in his voice from him.  You know what I mean there are a lot of homginized sounding male singers now.  I don't know what you would call his voice, tenor probably the next one up and there is a lot of male singers who sing like that now.  Where as for me I've been brought up on great different male singers, Lennon, Bowie, Marc Bolan, Jim Morison even Syd Barret, the list goes on and I really need that in a vocalist.  Something that differentiates one singer and one songwriter from another.
 
Now I am being really picky, I would like him to learn to play the guitar, then that would have been a nice performance.
 
You know what I mean, it's nice to see a singer songwriter and their guitar.
 
I'm still not sold, I must admit Danny, but it is nice to chat and put our male egos aside for the good of the forum.
 
Peace Ben

mattplaysguitar

BenMMusTech

But there is so much crap it's hard to sort through it all.

Come on! You can't seriously say that that 'Call Me Maybe' song isn't crap!!!!!! Bahahaa


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic


Though I think this version may be better..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIfbghHdG1s

Man,I could not disagree with you more. The singer has a cute nervous energy that totally sells the song. It is catchy as all heck (even if the lyrics give off a strong whiff of stalkerism). And the great Bobby Owsinski does a terrific analysis of the tune here
http://bobbyowsinski.blogspot.com/2012/06/carly-rae-jepsen-call-me-maybe-song.html

jamesyoyo

mattplaysguitar

BenMMusTech

But there is so much crap it's hard to sort through it all.

Come on! You can't seriously say that that 'Call Me Maybe' song isn't crap!!!!!! Bahahaa


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic


Though I think this version may be better..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIfbghHdG1s

Man,I could not disagree with you more. The singer has a cute nervous energy that totally sells the song. It is catchy as all heck (even if the lyrics give off a strong whiff of stalkerism). And the great Bobby Owsinski does a terrific analysis of the tune here
http://bobbyowsinski.blogspot.com/2012/06/carly-rae-jepsen-call-me-maybe-song.html

I know the song well, getting lots of airplay here in OZ.  Whilst yes the song is catchy (which is what you want), I must admit I've heard it in my head a couple of times, I think the singer voice is a little on the weak side.
 
Plus her acting in the video is awful.  What I think this thread is about how to get away from this sort of music and break the mould, I don't see this girl/singer doing that or having a long career in the music industry.
 
I do like how at the end of the video, the guy is a poof and gives his number to one of the band mates. 
 
Peace Ben