That "bring it live" thing too, I wonder about that. Public Enemy shout over the top of samples, to this day. And I have never seen a better live show than PE's live show. Sure, they don't play any instruments, but they can pin you to the wall more than most actual made-of-musicians bands. You might say that's cheating, I say it's a cue for live bands to step up their game, if a rap band in their 50s can blow you away.